Discussion:
Life after microsoft.public.com
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Tim Meddick
2010-10-31 07:05:48 UTC
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Looks like it's not dead here just yet......

I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might live on, as
it looks like another server has took it up (nntp.aioe.org).....

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
David H. Lipman
2010-10-31 14:36:16 UTC
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From: "Tim Meddick" <***@o2.co.uk>


| Looks like it's not dead here just yet......

| I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might live on, as
| it looks like another server has took it up (nntp.aioe.org).....

I get it though NewsBuy and GigaNews.

Microsoft's server may be gone but the microsoft.* hierarchy lives on!
--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
webster72n
2010-10-31 22:01:12 UTC
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"Tim Meddick" wrote in message news:iaj4gf$1be$***@speranza.aioe.org...


Looks like it's not dead here just yet......

I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might live on, as
it looks like another server has took it up (nntp.aioe.org).....

That's where you are right now and hope you are having fun...

Harry.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Hot-Text
2010-11-01 09:44:35 UTC
Permalink
Microsoft Close it news server

For the Newsgroups microsoft.public are just being run by I got post!
if a New News Server Ping for a list from Microsoft it will not get one for
it's Close!
But if New News Server Ping aioe.org it will have some of the Microsoft list
but not all of it!
Some for news Clients too!
Post by Tim Meddick
Looks like it's not dead here just yet......
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might live on, as
it looks like another server has took it up (nntp.aioe.org).....
That's where you are right now and hope you are having fun...
Harry.
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
98 Guy
2010-11-01 03:20:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.

When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
Tim Meddick
2010-11-01 19:28:17 UTC
Permalink
Mostly good-natured replies....

I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.

Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected not
to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!

I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org " as
they always used to have two groups I was interested in before Microsoft
decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being; "alt.msdos.batch"
and "alt.windows.xp" ).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
Heather
2010-11-01 21:05:47 UTC
Permalink
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them and that is the one I use because it is more reliable than
the *aioe* one. Oh, and it is free also.

Cheers.....Heather
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected
not to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!
I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org "
as they always used to have two groups I was interested in before
Microsoft decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being;
"alt.msdos.batch" and "alt.windows.xp" ).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
Joan Archer
2010-11-01 21:31:09 UTC
Permalink
?That and BT also carry them, I use both.
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
<g>



Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
"Heather" wrote in message news:iana3j$rfr$***@news.eternal-september.org...

Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them and that is the one I use because it is more reliable than
the *aioe* one. Oh, and it is free also.

Cheers.....Heather
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected
not to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!
I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org " as
they always used to have two groups I was interested in before Microsoft
decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being; "alt.msdos.batch"
and "alt.windows.xp" ).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
Mart
2010-11-02 00:52:21 UTC
Permalink
Joan wrote :-
Post by Joan Archer
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
But then we've always been a reasonably tolerant bunch here. Perhaps, like
fine wine and Stilton, we've just 'matured' and learned to adapt. We're so
laid-back here, we're almost horizontal.

Mart
Post by Joan Archer
?That and BT also carry them, I use both.
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
<g>
Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them and that is the one I use because it is more reliable than
the *aioe* one. Oh, and it is free also.
Cheers.....Heather
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected
not to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!
I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org "
as they always used to have two groups I was interested in before
Microsoft decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being;
"alt.msdos.batch" and "alt.windows.xp" ).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
AnnonyMouse
2010-11-02 01:06:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mart
Joan wrote :-
Post by Joan Archer
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
But then we've always been a reasonably tolerant bunch here. Perhaps,
like fine wine and Stilton, we've just 'matured' and learned to
adapt. We're so laid-back here, we're almost horizontal.
Only "almost"?

Mike
Mart
2010-11-02 09:35:36 UTC
Permalink
Hi Mike,
Post by AnnonyMouse
Only "almost"?
Hmm.. Yep, OK! - I'll kill the "almost" bit. And if anyone wants to bottom
post in the WinMe NG, then that's fine by me. I'll just stick with top
posting, as we've always done here ever since I can remember - 2000? - and
agree to disagree.

Now, about you. - To quote (or perhaps mis-quote) the words of another
long-since-heard-from sage of this Group, "Good to read your face"

I keep threatening to give you a call but heard via Joan/Heather that you're
OK so tended to put it off for another day. Trouble is, the days keep
piling-up <g> Also saw you chip-in elsewhere recently (re damaged DVD) which
was also re-assuring and confirmed Joan & Heather's reports. BTW - My DVD
recorder now works properly - a complete power shut-down was the eventual
solution. Software 'factory resets' just would not clear the pesky
intermittent problem.

If all else fails - power down for a few hours!

Catch you soon

Mart
Post by AnnonyMouse
Post by Mart
Joan wrote :-
Post by Joan Archer
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
But then we've always been a reasonably tolerant bunch here. Perhaps,
like fine wine and Stilton, we've just 'matured' and learned to
adapt. We're so laid-back here, we're almost horizontal.
Only "almost"?
Mike
AnnonyMouse
2010-11-02 12:01:16 UTC
Permalink
Hi Mart,

Top, bottom or interleaved posting - which I use depends somewhat on the
circumstances or my mood. What I detest are those who feel the need to try
and dictate how others should post. I probably bottom post more for one
liners commenting on a previous post whereas I top post for fuller posts
that for comprehension don't necessarily require knowledge of an earlier
post and interleave when responding to or commenting on multiple parts of a
previous post.

Not being into html I've never quite got the hang of sideways posting! <vbg>

I'm very pleased to read you've cured the problems with your PVR. Likewise
my capturing and encoding is going pretty well as my Hauppauge twin tuner
card is working better than it ever has since Hauppauge released updated
drivers some time ago. Not having gone to Freesat all I'm missing now is
DVB-T2 HD capture card for use with Freeview but such cards are impossible
to find since all of the DVB-T2 chipsets seem to be being used for either
set top boxes or built into new TVs.

As for powering down, sadly having powered down my second box a couple of
weeks ago it has since refused to start and I just don't have the energy at
the moment to clear everything around it so as to get access, open up the
box and trace the problem which I'm hoping is nothing more than a detached
power lead. Fortunately you haven't seen beside and beneath my desk but
suffice to say there are multiple extension strips and sockets with at the
last count over outlets and I dread to think how many of those have a small
power transformer attached (laptop power supply, phone, router, switch,
external usb drives, etc, etc.).

Catch you soon.

Mike - who's thinking about returning to the horizontal, it being a lot
warmer there!
Post by Mart
Hi Mike,
Post by AnnonyMouse
Only "almost"?
Hmm.. Yep, OK! - I'll kill the "almost" bit. And if anyone wants to
bottom post in the WinMe NG, then that's fine by me. I'll just stick
with top posting, as we've always done here ever since I can remember
- 2000? - and agree to disagree.
Now, about you. - To quote (or perhaps mis-quote) the words of another
long-since-heard-from sage of this Group, "Good to read your face"
I keep threatening to give you a call but heard via Joan/Heather that
you're OK so tended to put it off for another day. Trouble is, the
days keep piling-up <g> Also saw you chip-in elsewhere recently (re
damaged DVD) which was also re-assuring and confirmed Joan &
Heather's reports. BTW - My DVD recorder now works properly - a
complete power shut-down was the eventual solution. Software 'factory
resets' just would not clear the pesky intermittent problem.
If all else fails - power down for a few hours!
Catch you soon
Tim Meddick
2010-11-02 18:14:03 UTC
Permalink
Absolutely bloody right-on!!

Too few of us "anti-nazi" s on here if you ask me.....

God bless you AMouse.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by AnnonyMouse
Hi Mart,
Top, bottom or interleaved posting - which I use depends somewhat on the
circumstances or my mood. What I detest are those who feel the need to
try and dictate how others should post. I probably bottom post more for
one liners commenting on a previous post whereas I top post for fuller
posts that for comprehension don't necessarily require knowledge of an
earlier post and interleave when responding to or commenting on multiple
parts of a previous post.
Not being into html I've never quite got the hang of sideways posting! <vbg>
I'm very pleased to read you've cured the problems with your PVR.
Likewise my capturing and encoding is going pretty well as my Hauppauge
twin tuner card is working better than it ever has since Hauppauge
released updated drivers some time ago. Not having gone to Freesat all
I'm missing now is DVB-T2 HD capture card for use with Freeview but such
cards are impossible to find since all of the DVB-T2 chipsets seem to be
being used for either set top boxes or built into new TVs.
As for powering down, sadly having powered down my second box a couple of
weeks ago it has since refused to start and I just don't have the energy
at the moment to clear everything around it so as to get access, open up
the box and trace the problem which I'm hoping is nothing more than a
detached power lead. Fortunately you haven't seen beside and beneath my
desk but suffice to say there are multiple extension strips and sockets
with at the last count over outlets and I dread to think how many of
those have a small power transformer attached (laptop power supply,
phone, router, switch, external usb drives, etc, etc.).
Catch you soon.
Mike - who's thinking about returning to the horizontal, it being a lot
warmer there!
Post by Mart
Hi Mike,
Post by AnnonyMouse
Only "almost"?
Hmm.. Yep, OK! - I'll kill the "almost" bit. And if anyone wants to
bottom post in the WinMe NG, then that's fine by me. I'll just stick
with top posting, as we've always done here ever since I can remember
- 2000? - and agree to disagree.
Now, about you. - To quote (or perhaps mis-quote) the words of another
long-since-heard-from sage of this Group, "Good to read your face"
I keep threatening to give you a call but heard via Joan/Heather that
you're OK so tended to put it off for another day. Trouble is, the
days keep piling-up <g> Also saw you chip-in elsewhere recently (re
damaged DVD) which was also re-assuring and confirmed Joan &
Heather's reports. BTW - My DVD recorder now works properly - a
complete power shut-down was the eventual solution. Software 'factory
resets' just would not clear the pesky intermittent problem.
If all else fails - power down for a few hours!
Catch you soon
Heather
2010-11-03 02:10:15 UTC
Permalink
So glad to see you up and on here........please stay *vertical* for a little
bit, lol. I am in deep doo-doo's cuz I owe you a letter or 3......but been
a bit under the weather myself.

I hereby promise that I will write said email within the next 24
hours.......(red sealing wax goes here with my Regal Stamp)

Hugs.......Heather
Post by AnnonyMouse
Hi Mart,
Top, bottom or interleaved posting - which I use depends somewhat on the
circumstances or my mood. What I detest are those who feel the need to
try and dictate how others should post. I probably bottom post more for
one liners commenting on a previous post whereas I top post for fuller
posts that for comprehension don't necessarily require knowledge of an
earlier post and interleave when responding to or commenting on multiple
parts of a previous post.
Not being into html I've never quite got the hang of sideways posting! <vbg>
I'm very pleased to read you've cured the problems with your PVR.
Likewise my capturing and encoding is going pretty well as my Hauppauge
twin tuner card is working better than it ever has since Hauppauge
released updated drivers some time ago. Not having gone to Freesat all
I'm missing now is DVB-T2 HD capture card for use with Freeview but such
cards are impossible to find since all of the DVB-T2 chipsets seem to be
being used for either set top boxes or built into new TVs.
As for powering down, sadly having powered down my second box a couple of
weeks ago it has since refused to start and I just don't have the energy
at the moment to clear everything around it so as to get access, open up
the box and trace the problem which I'm hoping is nothing more than a
detached power lead. Fortunately you haven't seen beside and beneath my
desk but suffice to say there are multiple extension strips and sockets
with at the last count over outlets and I dread to think how many of those
have a small power transformer attached (laptop power supply, phone,
router, switch, external usb drives, etc, etc.).
Catch you soon.
Mike - who's thinking about returning to the horizontal, it being a lot
warmer there!
Post by Mart
Hi Mike,
Post by AnnonyMouse
Only "almost"?
Hmm.. Yep, OK! - I'll kill the "almost" bit. And if anyone wants to
bottom post in the WinMe NG, then that's fine by me. I'll just stick
with top posting, as we've always done here ever since I can remember
- 2000? - and agree to disagree.
Now, about you. - To quote (or perhaps mis-quote) the words of another
long-since-heard-from sage of this Group, "Good to read your face"
I keep threatening to give you a call but heard via Joan/Heather that
you're OK so tended to put it off for another day. Trouble is, the
days keep piling-up <g> Also saw you chip-in elsewhere recently (re
damaged DVD) which was also re-assuring and confirmed Joan &
Heather's reports. BTW - My DVD recorder now works properly - a
complete power shut-down was the eventual solution. Software 'factory
resets' just would not clear the pesky intermittent problem.
If all else fails - power down for a few hours!
Catch you soon
Joan Archer
2010-11-03 12:58:48 UTC
Permalink
?Hi Mart,
We are a nice lot aren't we <g> which reminds me it's time I sent a message
to Heirloom, wonder if he's on Messenger, I've just started using that,
although the only one I've had a chat with so far is Noel <g>

I see you pick the group up via BT same as me, although I do have
eternal-september as well.

Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
"Mart" wrote in message news:***@bt.com...

Joan wrote :-
Post by Joan Archer
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
But then we've always been a reasonably tolerant bunch here. Perhaps, like
fine wine and Stilton, we've just 'matured' and learned to adapt. We're so
laid-back here, we're almost horizontal.

Mart
Post by Joan Archer
?That and BT also carry them, I use both.
Good natured indeed especially talking about XP General in the WinME group
<g>
Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them and that is the one I use because it is more reliable than
the *aioe* one. Oh, and it is free also.
Cheers.....Heather
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected
not to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!
I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org "
as they always used to have two groups I was interested in before
Microsoft decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being;
"alt.msdos.batch" and "alt.windows.xp" ).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
webster72n
2010-11-02 01:54:58 UTC
Permalink
"Heather" wrote in message news:iana3j$rfr$***@news.eternal-september.org...

Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them

it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!

<H>.

and that is the one I use because it is more reliable than
the *aioe* one. Oh, and it is free also.

Cheers.....Heather
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected
not to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!
I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org " as
they always used to have two groups I was interested in before Microsoft
decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being; "alt.msdos.batch"
and "alt.windows.xp" ).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
Heather
2010-11-02 02:42:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
*eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.

What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
am using E-S exclusively.
Post by Heather
<H>.
and that is the one I use because it is more reliable than
the *aioe* one. Oh, and it is free also.
Cheers.....Heather
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that formerly
resided on "msnews.microsoft.com" , however, " nntp.aioe.org " never
used to be one of them.
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups, I expected
not to be able to access those groups of the same names ever again!
I was just pleased to see them re-appear, carried by " nntp.aioe.org "
as they always used to have two groups I was interested in before
Microsoft decided to pull the plug on it's groups (the two being;
"alt.msdos.batch" and "alt.windows.xp" ).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Post by 98 Guy
Post by Tim Meddick
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might
live on, as it looks like another server has took it up
(nntp.aioe.org).....
Usenet is a distributed message system. There is no one server that is
responsible for hosting any given newsgroup or set of groups.
When microsoft shut down it's usenet server recently, all of the other
servers that are part of the world-wide usenet simply continued to carry
those microsoft groups as if nothing happened.
David H. Lipman
2010-11-02 03:41:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.

| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.


And...

Reset the news group list.
--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Heather
2010-11-02 03:59:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by David H. Lipman
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.
| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.
And...
Reset the news group list.
ROFL!! I guess that is what I was trying to say, but forgot what one had to
do to get more than 10.......it has been so long........sigh.

Figgs
webster72n
2010-11-02 05:12:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by David H. Lipman
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.
| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.
And...
Reset the news group list.
ROFL!! I guess that is what I was trying to say, but forgot what one had to
do to get more than 10.......it has been so long........sigh.

I tried that, but don't seem to be able to establish connection with the
server. Could that be because of my dial-up being too slow a connection? Or
should I just try again some other time?
Don't really need it, because I have nntp.aioe.org.

Figgs
Heather
2010-11-03 02:07:41 UTC
Permalink
I shall now top post........to hell with anyone who doesn't like it!! (VBG)
Well, that takes care of our one and only "net nazi".......Mr. 98 Guy, who
doesn't belong here anyway.

Hey Harry........if you click on "news.eternal-september" to get all the
news groups....can you find the news group I mentioned for support?? They
will help you get this sorted out.........and no, I don't think your dial up
is the problem (btw, where in hell do you live?? The boonies??) Anyway,
Ray Banana owns this news service and he is on there and can help. Dave
Hodgkins is also on there........he is on the AV groups and lives here in
Toronto.

Or........maybe Mr. Lipman can help, but he is up to his *** in alligators
with a certifiable dolt on the AV groups, lol.

Cheers....Heather
Post by Heather
Post by David H. Lipman
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.
| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.
And...
Reset the news group list.
ROFL!! I guess that is what I was trying to say, but forgot what one had to
do to get more than 10.......it has been so long........sigh.
I tried that, but don't seem to be able to establish connection with
the server. Could that be because of my dial-up being too slow a
connection? Or should I just try again some other time?
Don't really need it, because I have nntp.aioe.org.
Figgs
webster72n
2010-11-04 05:14:32 UTC
Permalink
Not to worry sweety, I am in 'negotiations'.
Someone gave me good directions, just have to find the time to follow them.
Eventually I 'll get there.
Did read some of Ray's comments on this matter.
And no 'boon docks' here.
Let you know when I am straightened out.
Cheers,

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message news:iaqg8j$med$***@news.eternal-september.org...

I shall now top post........to hell with anyone who doesn't like it!! (VBG)
Well, that takes care of our one and only "net nazi".......Mr. 98 Guy, who
doesn't belong here anyway.

Hey Harry........if you click on "news.eternal-september" to get all the
news groups....can you find the news group I mentioned for support?? They
will help you get this sorted out.........and no, I don't think your dial up
is the problem (btw, where in hell do you live?? The boonies??) Anyway,
Ray Banana owns this news service and he is on there and can help. Dave
Hodgkins is also on there........he is on the AV groups and lives here in
Toronto.

Or........maybe Mr. Lipman can help, but he is up to his *** in alligators
with a certifiable dolt on the AV groups, lol.

Cheers....Heather
Post by Heather
Post by David H. Lipman
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.
| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.
And...
Reset the news group list.
ROFL!! I guess that is what I was trying to say, but forgot what one had to
do to get more than 10.......it has been so long........sigh.
I tried that, but don't seem to be able to establish connection with
the server. Could that be because of my dial-up being too slow a
connection? Or should I just try again some other time?
Don't really need it, because I have nntp.aioe.org.
Figgs
webster72n
2010-11-05 01:33:57 UTC
Permalink
Figgs:

As promised and thanks to the help of a good Samaritan in the
eternal-september ng I was able to solve my problem with ease.
I had to start from scratch though.
Now I can access all the groups, if I want to that is.
Thanks for your and Dave's (hope you're looking) concern also.
Hope you all have a wonderful day, one after another, despite
life's pitfalls.

Harry.




"Heather" wrote in message news:iaqg8j$med$***@news.eternal-september.org...

I shall now top post........to hell with anyone who doesn't like it!! (VBG)
Well, that takes care of our one and only "net nazi".......Mr. 98 Guy, who
doesn't belong here anyway.

Hey Harry........if you click on "news.eternal-september" to get all the
news groups....can you find the news group I mentioned for support?? They
will help you get this sorted out.........and no, I don't think your dial up
is the problem (btw, where in hell do you live?? The boonies??) Anyway,
Ray Banana owns this news service and he is on there and can help. Dave
Hodgkins is also on there........he is on the AV groups and lives here in
Toronto.

Or........maybe Mr. Lipman can help, but he is up to his *** in alligators
with a certifiable dolt on the AV groups, lol.

Cheers....Heather
Post by Heather
Post by David H. Lipman
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.
| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.
And...
Reset the news group list.
ROFL!! I guess that is what I was trying to say, but forgot what one had to
do to get more than 10.......it has been so long........sigh.
I tried that, but don't seem to be able to establish connection with
the server. Could that be because of my dial-up being too slow a
connection? Or should I just try again some other time?
Don't really need it, because I have nntp.aioe.org.
Figgs
Heather
2010-11-05 02:39:15 UTC
Permalink
Glad to hear that, Har-Har........it was a common problem for a lot of
people at the beginning of E-S. I had to fiddle with it a bit too.

Figgs
Post by webster72n
As promised and thanks to the help of a good Samaritan in the
eternal-september ng I was able to solve my problem with ease.
I had to start from scratch though.
Now I can access all the groups, if I want to that is.
Thanks for your and Dave's (hope you're looking) concern also.
Hope you all have a wonderful day, one after another, despite
life's pitfalls.
Harry.
I shall now top post........to hell with anyone who doesn't like it!!
(VBG)
Well, that takes care of our one and only "net nazi".......Mr. 98 Guy, who
doesn't belong here anyway.
Hey Harry........if you click on "news.eternal-september" to get all the
news groups....can you find the news group I mentioned for support?? They
will help you get this sorted out.........and no, I don't think your dial up
is the problem (btw, where in hell do you live?? The boonies??) Anyway,
Ray Banana owns this news service and he is on there and can help. Dave
Hodgkins is also on there........he is on the AV groups and lives here in
Toronto.
Or........maybe Mr. Lipman can help, but he is up to his *** in alligators
with a certifiable dolt on the AV groups, lol.
Cheers....Heather
Post by Heather
Post by David H. Lipman
Post by Heather
Surprising re good-natured replies (G)......eternal-september news service
also carries them
it does? Mine only carries ten groups and none of them
is from micros***!
| Harry........you don't have your news server (E-S) configured
| properly.........go to their website and sort it out. Or go to the
| *eternal-september.support* ng and they will help you.
| What you are complaining about is something that happened to *newbies* at
| the start of the switch with E-S and I haven't seen that complaint for a
| long time. As you can see from the blue line beside my name at the top, I
| am using E-S exclusively.
And...
Reset the news group list.
ROFL!! I guess that is what I was trying to say, but forgot what one had to
do to get more than 10.......it has been so long........sigh.
I tried that, but don't seem to be able to establish connection with
the server. Could that be because of my dial-up being too slow a
connection? Or should I just try again some other time?
Don't really need it, because I have nntp.aioe.org.
Figgs
98 Guy
2010-11-01 21:40:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim Meddick
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that
formerly resided on "msnews.microsoft.com"
Newsgroups do not "reside" or are otherwise hosted on any particular
server.

The correct phrase is that servers "carry" newsgroups.
Post by Tim Meddick
however, " nntp.aioe.org " never used to be one of them.
I have been posting to these microsoft.public newsgroups for the past 4
years using nntp.aioe.org since my ISP shut down it's own nntp server.
So it is not correct to say that AIOE has only recently started to carry
these groups.

I don't know when aioe started to operate, but I would guess that since
day one it has carried a relatively complete set of non-binary groups,
including this one.
Post by Tim Meddick
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups,
I expected not to be able to access those groups of the same
names ever again!
You don't understand how usenet operates and how postings are
distributed among the network of connected NNTP servers.

Microsoft's servers played no role in the existance of any newsgroup in
the microsoft.public hierarchy or in the ability to read and post
messages to those groups from other servers.

It is true that many people pointed their usenet client or usenet
readers to msnews.microsoft.com and used that server to read and post to
these groups, but you could do the same with practically all other
usenet servers operating around the world, including many/most/all
servers operated by ISPs.
Post by Tim Meddick
I was just pleased to see them re-appear,
Uuhg. In the context of the world-wide usenet, they never disappeared
in the first place.
Post by Tim Meddick
before Microsoft decided to pull the plug on it's groups
(the two being; "alt.msdos.batch" and "alt.windows.xp" ).
Microsoft never carried those two groups on it's server.

Microsoft configured it's server to only carry the microsoft.public
hierarchy or set of groups.

alt.msdos.batch is a valid usenet group, but I don't know if
alt.windows.xp is or ever was.
webster72n
2010-11-02 01:36:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim Meddick
I am aware that other servers used to carry the newsgroups, that
formerly resided on "msnews.microsoft.com"
Newsgroups do not "reside" or are otherwise hosted on any particular
server.

The correct phrase is that servers "carry" newsgroups.
Post by Tim Meddick
however, " nntp.aioe.org " never used to be one of them.
I have been posting to these microsoft.public newsgroups for the past 4
years using nntp.aioe.org since my ISP shut down it's own nntp server.
So it is not correct to say that AIOE has only recently started to carry
these groups.

I don't know when aioe started to operate, but I would guess that since
day one it has carried a relatively complete set of non-binary groups,
including this one.
Post by Tim Meddick
Since the Microsoft stopped hosting it's list of newsgroups,
I expected not to be able to access those groups of the same
names ever again!
You don't understand how usenet operates and how postings are
distributed among the network of connected NNTP servers.

Microsoft's servers played no role in the existance of any newsgroup in
the microsoft.public hierarchy or in the ability to read and post
messages to those groups from other servers.

It is true that many people pointed their usenet client or usenet
readers to msnews.microsoft.com and used that server to read and post to
these groups, but you could do the same with practically all other
usenet servers operating around the world, including many/most/all
servers operated by ISPs.
Post by Tim Meddick
I was just pleased to see them re-appear,
Uuhg. In the context of the world-wide usenet, they never disappeared
in the first place.
Post by Tim Meddick
before Microsoft decided to pull the plug on it's groups
(the two being; "alt.msdos.batch" and "alt.windows.xp" ).
Microsoft never carried those two groups on it's server.

Microsoft configured it's server to only carry the microsoft.public
hierarchy or set of groups.

alt.msdos.batch is a valid usenet group, but I don't know if
alt.windows.xp is or ever was.

Looks like you are not such a bad '98 Guy' after all.
I am willing to 'smoke the peace pipe' with you.

Harry.
N. Miller
2010-11-03 05:44:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim Meddick
Looks like it's not dead here just yet......
I think maybe " microsoft.public.windowsxp.general " just might live on, as
it looks like another server has took it up (nntp.aioe.org).....
SBC "killed" the MS newsgroup hierarchy long before MS did. And most news
service providers (Giganews, Terranews, Eternal-September, and the rest)
continued to carry them despite the "killing" of them by AT&T, Verizon, MS,
and the rest. Usent is like a hydra; you've got to cut off all of the heads
to kill it! ;)
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
98 Guy
2010-11-03 23:59:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by N. Miller
SBC "killed" the MS newsgroup hierarchy long before MS did.
SBC Global (aka ATT) shut down their NNTP server in July 2009.

They did not "kill" the MS newsgroup hierarchy. They simply stopped
offering an NNTP server for their customers to use.
Post by N. Miller
And most news service providers (Giganews, Terranews,
Eternal-September, and the rest) continued to carry them
despite the "killing" of them by AT&T, Verizon, MS,
and the rest.
There is a difference between removing newsgroups on NNTP servers vs
shutting down NNTP servers. Do you understand that difference?
Tim Meddick
2010-11-04 10:18:01 UTC
Permalink
You really are a condescending asshole!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
< clipped >
98 Guy
2010-11-04 12:53:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tim Meddick
You really are a condescending asshole!
Really nice comment there Tim.

This is what you get when you try to educate some people.
Post by Tim Meddick
Mostly good-natured replies....
Except for your own.
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