DUMMIES guide to slipstreaming WinME install disks?

[Greegor]

Are there simple instructions online for slipstreaming
updates into WinME install CD's?

Like for DUMMIES?

[duckstandard]

Post by Greegor
Are there simple instructions online for slipstreaming
updates into WinME install CD's?
Like for DUMMIES?

I think it can be done but updates need to be downloaded individually,
I think.

WinMe though is likely the most easily exploitable operating system.
Updates don't mean shit in the end.

I think windows 2000 is not even supported anymore, but is far more
secure than win_me when updated.

[98 Guy]

Post by duckstandard
WinMe though is likely the most easily exploitable operating
system. Updates don't mean shit in the end.
I think windows 2000 is not even supported anymore, but is far
more secure than win_me when updated.

You are dreaming.

The NT-based line of operating systems have been far more exploitable
and vulnerable than the win-9x/me line.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

There have been 6 different network worms that can penetrate NT-based
systems over the past 10 years. None of them can penetrate 9x/me
systems.

Look up the term "Internet survival time". Take a fresh win-2K system
and connect it to the internet and try to perform a windows-update
session on it. Your system will become infected by a worm before your
update session is finished.

[duckstandard]

Post by 98 Guy

Post by duckstandard
WinMe though is likely the most easily exploitable operating
system. Updates don't mean shit in the end.
I think windows 2000 is not even supported anymore, but is far
more secure than win_me when updated.

You are dreaming.
The NT-based line of operating systems have been far more exploitable
and vulnerable than the win-9x/me line.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
There have been 6 different network worms that can penetrate NT-based
systems over the past 10 years. None of them can penetrate 9x/me
systems.
Look up the term "Internet survival time". Take a fresh win-2K system
and connect it to the internet and try to perform a windows-update
session on it. Your system will become infected by a worm before your
update session is finished.

Are you are familiar with the official statement at 'the end' of winme
support by Microsoft that said that windows me cannot be secured?

I've seen the vulnerabilities in action and would never install it on
anybody's computer. Have a firewall, doesn't do anything. Virus
scanner, doesn't do anything.

[98 Guy]

Post by duckstandard

Post by 98 Guy
Look up the term "Internet survival time". Take a fresh win-2K
system and connect it to the internet and try to perform a
windows-update session on it. Your system will become infected
by a worm before your update session is finished.

Are you are familiar with the official statement at 'the end' of
winme support by Microsoft that said that windows me cannot be
secured?

And you believe such a statement from Microsoft?

A company that gave the world XP-SP0 back in 2002, which resulted in
millions of trojanized PC's and bot armies responsible for the spam
outbreak that started in 2003 and continues today?

Security for Microsoft means desktop and file-system security. Keyboard
security. Not internet security.

Corporations want (or demand) desktop security. Machine logins via
username and password. User rights and profiles. You can't do that on
9x/me. When the term "security" is thrown around, that's what they're
talking about. Which is completely useless for home and soho users.

Post by duckstandard
I've seen the vulnerabilities in action and would never install
it on anybody's computer.

Then why are you reading this newsgroup?

I too woundn't install ME on anyone's computer. Win-98se is what I use
on my home and on as many of my corporate PC's as is practical (from an
app POV). The NT-based line of OS's are bloatware, and the trend
continues geometrically.

Post by duckstandard
Have a firewall, doesn't do anything.
Virus scanner, doesn't do anything.

The truth is that win-9x/me don't need firewalls (never did). Because
9x/me has never had a vulnerability that could be leveraged by a network
worm. NT/2K/XP on the other hand, have had about 6 or 7 different
vulnerabilities that could be leveraged by network worms. Naturally,
NT-based operating systems have also had hundreds of other
vulnerabilities relating to the integration of Internet Explorer into
the shell and deeper into the system, many of which are not operable or
functional on win-9x/me systems.

Many, most or all web-based exploit code doesn't function on win-9x/me
systems today, and haven't for at least the past 3 years. So win-9x/me
don't need AV scanners these days as a result.

And by the way, almost ALL of the IE6 security rollup packages that
Microsoft has been releasing for Windows 2000 functions perfectly on
win-9x/me. Many win-9x users download and install them on their system
as they are released. Windows 2K runs that same version of IE6 as
Win-98 does.