Discussion:
networking ME to win 7 via router
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Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-04 15:11:11 UTC
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Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the older
ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..

RTS
Noel Paton
2010-02-04 17:34:55 UTC
Permalink
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you can use
that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7, and
switch off password-protected sharing.

HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Heather
2010-02-04 19:01:13 UTC
Permalink
Hey Furball..........I managed to set up my wireless router all by myself at
Xmas so Elayne could use her laptop...........I think I deserve a medal at
the very least, LOL!!

I tried that Network Magic, but found that I did better with the DLink book
and my own ingenuity......so to speak!! I even managed to put a lock on it
cuz the neighbours were using my bandwith.......shame on them!!

XX Figgs
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you can
use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7, and
switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-04 20:11:05 UTC
Permalink
Tks Noel, I'll give it a try,

RTS
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you can
use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7, and
switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Mike M
2010-02-05 21:45:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you
can use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7,
and switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
Noel,

Can a Win Me PC access a network share on a PC running Win 7? Win 7 can
easily access shares on a Win Me machine but the reverse is more difficult.
--
Mike
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-05 23:18:54 UTC
Permalink
Greetings,
Noel, no good with the networking, so far..
the ME's will see each other but neither will see the win 7, nor the win
7 see the ME's..
I've also added a vista to the mix but haven't had a chance to try it yet..
(side note, everybody can access the wan through the router, 2 ME's, 1
vista & 1 win 7)
Tks anyway..
RTS
Post by Mike M
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you
can use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7,
and switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
Noel,
Can a Win Me PC access a network share on a PC running Win 7? Win 7 can
easily access shares on a Win Me machine but the reverse is more difficult.
--
Mike
Mike M
2010-02-05 23:41:28 UTC
Permalink
Win 7 should be able to see and access Win Me systems with little problem.
Have you enabled network discovery in Win 7's Network & Sharing Centre
Advanced Sharing Settings?
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Noel, no good with the networking, so far..
the ME's will see each other but neither will see the win 7, nor
the win 7 see the ME's..
I've also added a vista to the mix but haven't had a chance to try it
yet.. (side note, everybody can access the wan through the router, 2
ME's, 1 vista & 1 win 7)
Tks anyway..
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-06 00:49:25 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Mike,
yes sir, did all the network turn-on I could find, did restarts of both
win 7 and router just in case they need a reboot to setup.
tried it with a password and then without.
neither would id any ME's in the win 7 network screens..

as I say earlier, I'm no network person but from the experiences I had
with the ME setup, something is missing with the cross platform
link.
the ME's will see each other but not the win 7,
and with the win 7 being newer you'd think it should see the ME's but
so far it hasn't..
least wise the way I'd doing it..

it's no big thing, but would have been nice if I could transfer files,
but I can live without it...

tks all
RTS
Post by Mike M
Win 7 should be able to see and access Win Me systems with little problem.
Have you enabled network discovery in Win 7's Network & Sharing Centre
Advanced Sharing Settings?
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Noel, no good with the networking, so far..
the ME's will see each other but neither will see the win 7, nor
the win 7 see the ME's..
I've also added a vista to the mix but haven't had a chance to try it
yet.. (side note, everybody can access the wan through the router, 2
ME's, 1 vista & 1 win 7)
Tks anyway..
Mike M
2010-02-06 01:28:49 UTC
Permalink
For now forget about accessing the Win Me PCs, can you "see" them from Win
7? That is, do they appear in the Network listing in Windows Explorer or in
the Network Map accessed by clicking "see full map" (top right) in the
Network & Sharing Centre? Note that your Win Me boxes won't show as being
connected to your router but instead should appear at the bottom left since
they don't run the necessary service to be placed in their correct position
on the map.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
yes sir, did all the network turn-on I could find, did restarts
of both win 7 and router just in case they need a reboot to setup.
tried it with a password and then without.
neither would id any ME's in the win 7 network screens..
as I say earlier, I'm no network person but from the experiences I had
with the ME setup, something is missing with the cross
platform link.
the ME's will see each other but not the win 7,
and with the win 7 being newer you'd think it should see the ME's
but so far it hasn't..
least wise the way I'd doing it..
it's no big thing, but would have been nice if I could transfer
files, but I can live without it...
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-06 03:53:43 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Mike,

the win 7 "see full map" windows says "windows cannot discover any
computer or device."

RTS
Post by Mike M
For now forget about accessing the Win Me PCs, can you "see" them from Win
7? That is, do they appear in the Network listing in Windows Explorer or
in the Network Map accessed by clicking "see full map" (top right) in the
Network & Sharing Centre? Note that your Win Me boxes won't show as being
connected to your router but instead should appear at the bottom left
since they don't run the necessary service to be placed in their correct
position on the map.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
yes sir, did all the network turn-on I could find, did restarts
of both win 7 and router just in case they need a reboot to setup.
tried it with a password and then without.
neither would id any ME's in the win 7 network screens..
as I say earlier, I'm no network person but from the experiences I
had with the ME setup, something is missing with the cross
platform link.
the ME's will see each other but not the win 7,
and with the win 7 being newer you'd think it should see the ME's
but so far it hasn't..
least wise the way I'd doing it..
it's no big thing, but would have been nice if I could transfer
files, but I can live without it...
Mike M
2010-02-06 13:43:25 UTC
Permalink
Hi,

Not even the router? If so it would appear your Win 7 system isn't as yet
correctly configured for networking. You mentioned having a box running
Vista. The Win 7 machine should be able to see the Vista machine even if it
cannot access files on Vista due to Vista having no visible shares. Have
you tried running the networking wizard (Set up a new connection or network)
from Win 7's Network & Sharing Centre?

Are you perhaps running a third party fire wall? If so the useful link
posted by Joan in this thread tells you which ports you need to open.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
the win 7 "see full map" windows says "windows cannot discover any
computer or device."
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-06 21:23:40 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Mike,
I just purchased the "Dummies" book of win 7, so given enough time, I
hope I'll stumble upon the part I've been missing so far..

As I was telling Noel, I already have several items I need to check on,
the router, the vista machine, and for sure the win 7, plus I did find
out this machine is using NORTONS which has disabled the win 7 firewall in
favor of its own.. So that might be part of the problem..

Hopefully I'll be able to remember all the problems I find and pass them
along to everybody..

Tks for all the feedback

RTS
Post by Mike M
Hi,
Not even the router? If so it would appear your Win 7 system isn't as yet
correctly configured for networking. You mentioned having a box running
Vista. The Win 7 machine should be able to see the Vista machine even if
it cannot access files on Vista due to Vista having no visible shares.
Have you tried running the networking wizard (Set up a new connection or
network) from Win 7's Network & Sharing Centre?
Are you perhaps running a third party fire wall? If so the useful link
posted by Joan in this thread tells you which ports you need to open.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
the win 7 "see full map" windows says "windows cannot discover any
computer or device."
Mike M
2010-02-07 00:04:52 UTC
Permalink
The best thing you can do for yourself and your Win 7 PC is get rid of
Norton PDQ. The Win 7 firewall is more than sufficient, especially so if
you are sitting behind a router using NAT (Network Address Translation).
With Norton removed or at least Norton's firewall disabled the Win 7 machine
should be able to see the other PCs on your LAN and access shares on your
other PCs. Regrettably though this still won't allow your Win Me PCs to
access shares on the Win 7 machine.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
I just purchased the "Dummies" book of win 7, so given enough time,
I hope I'll stumble upon the part I've been missing so far..
As I was telling Noel, I already have several items I need to
check on, the router, the vista machine, and for sure the win 7, plus
I did find out this machine is using NORTONS which has
disabled the win 7 firewall in favor of its own.. So that might
be part of the problem..
Hopefully I'll be able to remember all the problems I find and
pass them along to everybody..
Tks for all the feedback
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-07 00:37:00 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked all LAN
connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the network but without
the IP address and connection machine name it will not open the path.. As
Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to shut down the firewall, but it
may take a while for me to get famililar enough with it to find the correct
settings.

Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward spin...

I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I got a
better understanding of how it works but if this is any indication I may
not be able to wait. ;-)

Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need to
access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine to link
with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's, jpg. mov, and
the like to the newer system..

(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with backups)

tks again for all the feedback

RTS
Post by Mike M
The best thing you can do for yourself and your Win 7 PC is get rid of
Norton PDQ. The Win 7 firewall is more than sufficient, especially so if
you are sitting behind a router using NAT (Network Address Translation).
With Norton removed or at least Norton's firewall disabled the Win 7
machine should be able to see the other PCs on your LAN and access shares
on your other PCs. Regrettably though this still won't allow your Win Me
PCs to access shares on the Win 7 machine.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
I just purchased the "Dummies" book of win 7, so given enough time,
I hope I'll stumble upon the part I've been missing so far..
As I was telling Noel, I already have several items I need to
check on, the router, the vista machine, and for sure the win 7, plus
I did find out this machine is using NORTONS which has
disabled the win 7 firewall in favor of its own.. So that might
be part of the problem..
Hopefully I'll be able to remember all the problems I find and
pass them along to everybody..
Tks for all the feedback
Mike M
2010-02-07 02:31:33 UTC
Permalink
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines on
the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC and 2x
Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine accessing
files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to communicate both ways
between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly if you were to have a
machine running XP you would also be able to establish two way
communication.

Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?

And now to bed ...
--
Mike M
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.
Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)
Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..
(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with
backups)
tks again for all the feedback
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-07 03:14:06 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines and then
their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an exception
page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down the
NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash drive..
;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL

tks again
RTS
Post by Mike M
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines
on the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC and
2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine
accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to
communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly if
you were to have a machine running XP you would also be able to establish
two way communication.
Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?
And now to bed ...
--
Mike M
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.
Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)
Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..
(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with backups)
tks again for all the feedback
Noel Paton
2010-02-07 08:48:51 UTC
Permalink
Glad you got through the Wall!
Don't forget, chances are that the Norton you got is only a trial (maybe
3months?) - so you'll have to stump up sooner or later for their paid
offering if you want to keep it.
There are very good free AV offerings from the likes of Avira, Alwil, AVG,
and even MS, as well as others. All come without the excess baggage that is
the rest of the Norton stuff.
The first three are slightly cut-down (usually in terms of configurability),
ad-bearing (for the paid version) apps - MS's offering (Microsoft Security
Essentials) is actually a consumer version of their Enterprise AV - and once
installed, you almost don't notice it's there.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines and
then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash drive..
;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
tks again
RTS
Post by Mike M
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines
on the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC and
2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine
accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to
communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly if
you were to have a machine running XP you would also be able to establish
two way communication.
Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?
And now to bed ...
--
Mike M
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.
Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)
Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..
(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with backups)
tks again for all the feedback
Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle
2010-02-07 14:44:32 UTC
Permalink
Noel,

Some points:

There seems to be a groundswell of opinion (whatever that means!) that
Norton AV is greatly improved these days (essentially far less
resource-hungry than it has been since circa 2003). I expect the SystemWorks
or whatever they do these days is still awful, and really, everyone should
just not use firewalls from any of these not-primarily-firewall-software
companys! For software firewalls - essential even with a router with a
firewall - Comodo and OnlineArmor are probably the best free ones. I'm using
Comodo widely thses days.

Do, please, call what you label here 'ad-bearing' the rather more
appropriate 'nag ware'. Though I'd be fascinated to know accurate statistics
as to the sum affect of intrusive pop-ups on, say, AVG usage. I for one will
never use it again! Or indeed the equally-awful-these-days Zone Alarm.

My opinion on Avast! is mixed. I still dislike it intensely for look and
feel, though others patently like it, but the important thing is it seems to
perform pretty well (on a par with Antivir, which I am now using on the
everyday system despite having a couple of months left on my NOD32 license).

It is easy to disable the Antivir nagscreen (and the Diskeeper Lite, come to
that!).

Finally, in not one of my own trials over the years nor any test by the
reputable testing labs nor in any in any sense rigorous review I've seen has
any Microsoft anti-malware product peformed even as well as average.
Generally it has been about on a par with Norton/McAfee at their worse.

Shane
Post by Noel Paton
Glad you got through the Wall!
Don't forget, chances are that the Norton you got is only a trial
(maybe 3months?) - so you'll have to stump up sooner or later for
their paid offering if you want to keep it.
There are very good free AV offerings from the likes of Avira, Alwil,
AVG, and even MS, as well as others. All come without the excess
baggage that is the rest of the Norton stuff.
The first three are slightly cut-down (usually in terms of
configurability), ad-bearing (for the paid version) apps - MS's
offering (Microsoft Security Essentials) is actually a consumer
version of their Enterprise AV - and once installed, you almost don't
notice it's there.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall,
but I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other
machines and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
tks again
RTS
Post by Mike M
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other
machines on the network (the four devices probably being your
router, Vista PC and 2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with
your Win 7 machine accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should
also be able to communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7
machines. Similarly if you were to have a machine running XP you
would also be able to establish two way communication.
Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to
configure Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to
be a setting or option on it that identifies blocked machines and
allows you to permit access?
And now to bed ...
--
Mike M
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally
blocked all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on
the network but without the IP address and connection machine
name it will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking
for a way to shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me
to get famililar enough with it to find the correct
settings. Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a
downward
spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till
I got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)
Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't
need to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7
machine to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files
and html's, jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..
(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with backups)
tks again for all the feedback
Mike M
2010-02-07 17:59:08 UTC
Permalink
Shane,

A coup[le of quick points:

1) Norton's recent AVs seem to be better than the version from the early
naughties however the problem here isn't Norton's AV but rather their
firewall.
2) I have yet to see any advert or nag screen when using Alwil's Avast!
version 4.8 and 5.0 AV applications.
I've seen has any Microsoft anti-malware product performed even as
well as average.
I suggest you check again. You might find yourself pleasantly surprised.
--
Mike
Noel,
There seems to be a groundswell of opinion (whatever that means!) that
Norton AV is greatly improved these days (essentially far less
resource-hungry than it has been since circa 2003). I expect the
SystemWorks or whatever they do these days is still awful, and
really, everyone should just not use firewalls from any of these
not-primarily-firewall-software companys! For software firewalls -
essential even with a router with a firewall - Comodo and OnlineArmor
are probably the best free ones. I'm using Comodo widely thses days.
Do, please, call what you label here 'ad-bearing' the rather more
appropriate 'nag ware'. Though I'd be fascinated to know accurate
statistics as to the sum affect of intrusive pop-ups on, say, AVG
usage. I for one will never use it again! Or indeed the
equally-awful-these-days Zone Alarm.
My opinion on Avast! is mixed. I still dislike it intensely for look
and feel, though others patently like it, but the important thing is
it seems to perform pretty well (on a par with Antivir, which I am
now using on the everyday system despite having a couple of months
left on my NOD32 license).
It is easy to disable the Antivir nagscreen (and the Diskeeper Lite,
come to that!).
Finally, in not one of my own trials over the years nor any test by
the reputable testing labs nor in any in any sense rigorous review
I've seen has any Microsoft anti-malware product peformed even as
well as average. Generally it has been about on a par with
Norton/McAfee at their worse.
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-07 16:38:19 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Noel,
yep, we use AVG for years till they dropped ME, we then switched to
Avast (their still updating the old ME now)
after this NORTONS runs out, we'll most likely go back to one of those..
I also had SpywareBlaster but I'm not sure if it will work on a win 7
machine.

oh, the thing you have to keep up with.. LOL

tks again,
RTS
Post by Noel Paton
Glad you got through the Wall!
Don't forget, chances are that the Norton you got is only a trial (maybe
3months?) - so you'll have to stump up sooner or later for their paid
offering if you want to keep it.
There are very good free AV offerings from the likes of Avira, Alwil, AVG,
and even MS, as well as others. All come without the excess baggage that
is the rest of the Norton stuff.
The first three are slightly cut-down (usually in terms of
configurability), ad-bearing (for the paid version) apps - MS's offering
(Microsoft Security Essentials) is actually a consumer version of their
Enterprise AV - and once installed, you almost don't notice it's there.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall,
but I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash drive..
;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
tks again
RTS
Post by Mike M
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines
on the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC
and 2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine
accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to
communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly
if you were to have a machine running XP you would also be able to
establish two way communication.
Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?
And now to bed ...
--
Mike M
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.
Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)
Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..
(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with backups)
tks again for all the feedback
Mike M
2010-02-07 13:54:07 UTC
Permalink
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information.
That's totally ridiculous. Norton should be telling out what the devices
are and asking whether you wish to access them or not rather than you having
to establish the IPs and names of the devices you want to connect to. If
for some reason you feel the need for a third party firewall you can do very
much better than use the insane offering from Symantec you have installed at
present. Personally I use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a
firewall with Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary
line of defence.
--
Mike Maltby
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle
2010-02-07 14:58:16 UTC
Permalink
Mike,
offering from Symantec you have installed at present. Personally I
use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a firewall with
Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary line of
defence.
I feel I should argue that for someone who really understands routers, like
yourself, fair enough, but for the majority these days they still need a
software firewall i). because enough router firewalls have been compromised
this last year that with certain models it would be the equivalent of users
showing lack of caution online because they believe their antivirus program
stops *all* viruses, and ii). because you need one to tell you what, if
anything, is trying to phone home.

I must be right, because this piece of salmon is done to perfection! QED!

Shane
Mike M
2010-02-07 17:53:12 UTC
Permalink
Shane,

I didn't say I didn't use a firewall other than when running Win Me, just
that I feel no need to add a third party firewall to the offerings included
as part of more recent Windows operating systems. As for router firewalls
being compromised; are you referring to the weak and predictable passwords
often used on routers, especially those supplied by many ISPs? Such weak
passwords then permitting otherwise unauthorised users to access the router
from the internet and configure it to suit their wishes.
--
Mike
Post by Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle
Mike,
offering from Symantec you have installed at present. Personally I
use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a firewall with
Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary line of
defence.
I feel I should argue that for someone who really understands
routers, like yourself, fair enough, but for the majority these days
they still need a software firewall i). because enough router
firewalls have been compromised this last year that with certain
models it would be the equivalent of users showing lack of caution
online because they believe their antivirus program stops *all*
viruses, and ii). because you need one to tell you what, if anything,
is trying to phone home.
I must be right, because this piece of salmon is done to perfection! QED!
duckstandard
2010-02-21 11:23:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike M
Shane,
I didn't say I didn't use a firewall other than when running Win Me, just
that I feel no need to add a third party firewall to the offerings included
as part of more recent Windows operating systems. As for router firewalls
being compromised; are you referring to the weak and predictable passwords
often used on routers, especially those supplied by many ISPs? Such weak
passwords then permitting otherwise unauthorised users to access the router
from the internet and configure it to suit their wishes.
--
Mike
Routers will sometimes have security flaws that come up, that people
should make sure they have updated firmware. As far as people keeping
the default passwords, only need to set up everything securely when
you set it up and basically forget about it, better than leaving it
unnoticed and secured than leaving it totally unsecured and unnoticed.
Shane
2010-02-21 16:57:25 UTC
Permalink
Be interesting to see this get through.
Noel Paton
2010-02-21 17:05:04 UTC
Permalink
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Shane
2010-02-21 17:10:36 UTC
Permalink
But the original I posted an hour or two back hasn't, nor has the identical
copy I posted a few minutes ago.
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Shane
2010-02-21 17:16:57 UTC
Permalink
I've posted it again as a new post. One wonders if it is being stopped as
spam due to the several links to articles at The Register.

If so...well we already established many months ago that this group is
filtered by incompetents. Guess nothing has changed.

Shane
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Shane
2010-02-21 17:19:59 UTC
Permalink
Which has appeared on Google Groups - but still not in OE.
Post by Shane
I've posted it again as a new post. One wonders if it is being
stopped as spam due to the several links to articles at The Register.
If so...well we already established many months ago that this group is
filtered by incompetents. Guess nothing has changed.
Shane
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Joan Archer
2010-02-22 16:00:49 UTC
Permalink
I will have to go read it when I've got a few minutes to spare to find out
just what you're all talking about <g>

For my part, don't know if this fits into this as I don't have my WinME
machine running now. I have the Home Hub and the first thing I did was
change the password, although the ones that come with the hub I believe are
unique to each hub, I'm not sure but I don't think they are all sent out
with the same default one.

I turned off the BTFon settings, I don't want or need the service and the
only machines that are allowed to connect to it are my Windows 7 which is
wired and John's XP in the next room which is wireless, Kelly's laptop was
allowed to join as well on the odd occasion she brought it over here before
they got their own phone and broadband.

This router has the top encryptment possible and nothing is ever connected
that shouldn't be, unlike my old router which couldn't be locked down.

I'm using the inbuilt Firewall with Microsoft Security Essentials for anti
virus and MalwareBytes plus SpywareBlaster, IE has Protected Mode ON and I
have IEPro running with all flash adverts blocked <g>

OK that lot probably had nothing to do with what you're all talking about
but that's my 2 pence worth and I owe you all a phone call in the next
couple of days <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
Post by Shane
I've posted it again as a new post. One wonders if it is being stopped as
spam due to the several links to articles at The Register.
If so...well we already established many months ago that this group is
filtered by incompetents. Guess nothing has changed.
Shane
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Joan Archer
2010-02-23 13:12:41 UTC
Permalink
I will have to go read it when I've got a few minutes to spare to find out
just what you're all talking about <g>

For my part, don't know if this fits into this as I don't have my WinME
machine running now. I have the Home Hub and the first thing I did was
change the password, although the ones that come with the hub I believe are
unique to each hub, I'm not sure but I don't think they are all sent out
with the same default one.

I turned off the BTFon settings, I don't want or need the service and the
only machines that are allowed to connect to it are my Windows 7 which is
wired and John's XP in the next room which is wireless, Kelly's laptop was
allowed to join as well on the odd occasion she brought it over here before
they got their own phone and broadband.

This router has the top encryptment possible and nothing is ever connected
that shouldn't be, unlike my old router which couldn't be locked down.

I'm using the inbuilt Firewall with Microsoft Security Essentials for anti
virus and MalwareBytes plus SpywareBlaster, IE has Protected Mode ON and I
have IEPro running with all flash adverts blocked <g>

OK that lot probably had nothing to do with what you're all talking about
but that's my 2 pence worth and I owe you all a phone call in the next
couple of days <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
Post by Shane
I've posted it again as a new post. One wonders if it is being stopped as
spam due to the several links to articles at The Register.
If so...well we already established many months ago that this group is
filtered by incompetents. Guess nothing has changed.
Shane
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Joan Archer
2010-02-23 20:05:14 UTC
Permalink
Well I posted an answer to this post of yours and that failed to come into
my WLM so I sent it again and it's still not showing but its showing twice
on Google groups.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.windowsme.general/browse_thread/thread/42245f477ec7b0df/e3855dd70d721f71?hl=en&
--
Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
Post by Shane
I've posted it again as a new post. One wonders if it is being stopped as
spam due to the several links to articles at The Register.
If so...well we already established many months ago that this group is
filtered by incompetents. Guess nothing has changed.
Shane
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Shane
2010-02-23 20:26:44 UTC
Permalink
Hmm. One wonders if it has to do with the *mention* of other products.
Possibly the filtering is being done in some country where they speak no
English whatsoever! The appalling thing being I don't suppose there's a
single one of us who'd be surprised if that turned out to be true, rather
than absurd satire (or something).

I haven't read your post fully though Joan. I will later. But I'm *still*
sodding about with rearranging the partitions here!

Shane
Post by Joan Archer
Well I posted an answer to this post of yours and that failed to come
into my WLM so I sent it again and it's still not showing but its
showing twice on Google groups.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.windowsme.general/browse_thread/thread/42245f477ec7b0df/e3855dd70d721f71?hl=en&
Post by Shane
I've posted it again as a new post. One wonders if it is being
stopped as spam due to the several links to articles at The Register.
If so...well we already established many months ago that this group
is filtered by incompetents. Guess nothing has changed.
Shane
Post by Noel Paton
well - it made it! (Will a response get through, though?)
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Shane
Be interesting to see this get through.
Shane
2010-02-21 17:00:43 UTC
Permalink
Different version.
Post by Mike M
Shane,
I didn't say I didn't use a firewall other than when running Win Me,
just that I feel no need to add a third party firewall to the
offerings included as part of more recent Windows operating systems. As
for router firewalls being compromised; are you referring to the
weak and predictable passwords often used on routers, especially
those supplied by many ISPs? Such weak passwords then permitting
otherwise unauthorised users to access the router from the internet
and configure it to suit their wishes.
Post by Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle
Mike,
offering from Symantec you have installed at present. Personally I
use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a firewall with
Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary line of
defence.
I feel I should argue that for someone who really understands
routers, like yourself, fair enough, but for the majority these days
they still need a software firewall i). because enough router
firewalls have been compromised this last year that with certain
models it would be the equivalent of users showing lack of caution
online because they believe their antivirus program stops *all*
viruses, and ii). because you need one to tell you what, if anything,
is trying to phone home.
I must be right, because this piece of salmon is done to perfection! QED!
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-07 16:46:49 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Mike,
your right I'm sure, I use the "tiny firewall" on the old ME's that plus
the router stopped all the problems I had been having when directly
connected..
(back in 2006 I had over 2000 + daily pings from somewhere in china..)

My next project will be to get the link for the total removal of nortons..
It seem I head that the symantec site had such a tool..

tks again,
RTS
Post by Mike M
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information.
That's totally ridiculous. Norton should be telling out what the devices
are and asking whether you wish to access them or not rather than you
having to establish the IPs and names of the devices you want to connect
to. If for some reason you feel the need for a third party firewall you
can do very much better than use the insane offering from Symantec you
have installed at present. Personally I use the XP, Vista or Win 7
firewalls and never used a firewall with Win Me, with my router's SPI &
NAT firewall being my primary line of defence.
--
Mike Maltby
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
Noel Paton
2010-02-07 21:13:46 UTC
Permalink
From personal experience, here, I can say that the Norton (Windows Control
panel/ Programs) Uninstaller ( as provided in the machines I've seen here)
is sufficient unto the need, in Win 7.
If you feel the need for belt-and-braces, then by all means also use the
Norton removal Tool (SymNRT.exe) - Google for it, because they have a nasty
habit of changing links without leaving forwarding behind!

The number of pings to your IP probably hasn't changed - merely your
perception of them:)

A NAT firewall will stop 99.x% of unauthorised pings from hitting your
network - so your software firewall never gets to see them (unless you play
silly wotsits with the NAT).
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
your right I'm sure, I use the "tiny firewall" on the old ME's that
plus the router stopped all the problems I had been having when
directly connected..
(back in 2006 I had over 2000 + daily pings from somewhere in china..)
My next project will be to get the link for the total removal of nortons..
It seem I head that the symantec site had such a tool..
tks again,
RTS
Post by Mike M
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information.
That's totally ridiculous. Norton should be telling out what the devices
are and asking whether you wish to access them or not rather than you
having to establish the IPs and names of the devices you want to connect
to. If for some reason you feel the need for a third party firewall you
can do very much better than use the insane offering from Symantec you
have installed at present. Personally I use the XP, Vista or Win 7
firewalls and never used a firewall with Win Me, with my router's SPI &
NAT firewall being my primary line of defence.
--
Mike Maltby
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-08 01:42:51 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Noel,
tks for the info, my isp has a habit of changing my url about every
3-4 months..
the pings will vary accordingly. I had a url last year that was so bad
I had to request a change..

as for removing the program and all registry entries, in ME the
left-overs in the registry could be as much a problem as the program
itself.
In the new win 7 I can't say.. seems I heard somewhere the op sys
handle them differently..

Something we'll learn about I guess..

tks again.
RTS
Post by Noel Paton
From personal experience, here, I can say that the Norton (Windows Control
panel/ Programs) Uninstaller ( as provided in the machines I've seen here)
is sufficient unto the need, in Win 7.
If you feel the need for belt-and-braces, then by all means also use the
Norton removal Tool (SymNRT.exe) - Google for it, because they have a
nasty habit of changing links without leaving forwarding behind!
The number of pings to your IP probably hasn't changed - merely your
perception of them:)
A NAT firewall will stop 99.x% of unauthorised pings from hitting your
network - so your software firewall never gets to see them (unless you
play silly wotsits with the NAT).
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
your right I'm sure, I use the "tiny firewall" on the old ME's that
plus the router stopped all the problems I had been having when
directly connected..
(back in 2006 I had over 2000 + daily pings from somewhere in china..)
My next project will be to get the link for the total removal of nortons..
It seem I head that the symantec site had such a tool..
tks again,
RTS
Post by Mike M
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall,
but I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information.
That's totally ridiculous. Norton should be telling out what the
devices are and asking whether you wish to access them or not rather
than you having to establish the IPs and names of the devices you want
to connect to. If for some reason you feel the need for a third party
firewall you can do very much better than use the insane offering from
Symantec you have installed at present. Personally I use the XP, Vista
or Win 7 firewalls and never used a firewall with Win Me, with my
router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary line of defence.
--
Mike Maltby
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall,
but I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)
Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL
Noel Paton
2010-02-06 08:44:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike M
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you
can use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7,
and switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
Noel,
Can a Win Me PC access a network share on a PC running Win 7? Win 7 can
easily access shares on a Win Me machine but the reverse is more difficult.
--
Mike
AFAIK, there shouldn't be any problem with the Win 7 machine getting into
the the ME machine - but as you say, getting the ME machine into Win 7 may
be more problematic.
Unfortunately, I no longer have a hardware 9x machine to play with (and VM's
don't count), but I'm sure I could share between Vista and ME back during
the Beta. Things may have changed for Win 7.....
Struggling in my archive to find any references for WIn98/W7 networking. -
nope, nothing :(
I may set up a couple of machines to play with - just for the giggles - but
it'd take a few days.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-06 21:15:57 UTC
Permalink
Greetings Noel,
I just got back from a bookstore with a purchase I hope will help clear up
some of my dummieness..

"Windows 7 for Dummies"

It seems to have a pretty good section on networking..
Give me a day of two to read it through and I'll see how it does then..
;-)

Just a glance I think I got several thing I need to check on, my D-Link
DI-604 router for one, check the ports to see if there open for cross
linking..
I now suspect the Vista machine has networks disabled, the possible
firewall problem of NORTONS which is running on the win 7 machine..

tks for all the feedback

RTS

(we'll get this pig whipped yet) LOL
Post by Noel Paton
Post by Mike M
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you
can use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7,
and switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
Noel,
Can a Win Me PC access a network share on a PC running Win 7? Win 7 can
easily access shares on a Win Me machine but the reverse is more difficult.
--
Mike
AFAIK, there shouldn't be any problem with the Win 7 machine getting into
the the ME machine - but as you say, getting the ME machine into Win 7 may
be more problematic.
Unfortunately, I no longer have a hardware 9x machine to play with (and
VM's don't count), but I'm sure I could share between Vista and ME back
during the Beta. Things may have changed for Win 7.....
Struggling in my archive to find any references for WIn98/W7 networking. -
nope, nothing :(
I may set up a couple of machines to play with - just for the giggles -
but it'd take a few days.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Noel Paton
2010-02-06 23:48:27 UTC
Permalink
Norton (assuming its the Internet Security version) would certainly be the
first thing to get rid of!
try switching off the firewall part of it first - you're behind a router, so
that can act as the firewall for the network for the (limited) time you need
to test the effects.
If that works then you already know my opinions on the rest of the
bedspread<<<<<<<<< suite - I've been ranting on about it for the past 9
years in these groups! <g>
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings Noel,
I just got back from a bookstore with a purchase I hope will help clear up
some of my dummieness..
"Windows 7 for Dummies"
It seems to have a pretty good section on networking..
Give me a day of two to read it through and I'll see how it does then..
;-)
Just a glance I think I got several thing I need to check on, my
D-Link DI-604 router for one, check the ports to see if there open
for cross linking..
I now suspect the Vista machine has networks disabled, the possible
firewall problem of NORTONS which is running on the win 7 machine..
tks for all the feedback
RTS
(we'll get this pig whipped yet) LOL
Post by Noel Paton
Post by Mike M
Post by Noel Paton
You need to set up the Win7 machine user with a password - then you
can use that username and password to log in from the ME machine.
Alternatively, you can go into the Network & Sharing page in Win 7,
and switch off password-protected sharing.
HTH - post back if you need blow-by-blow instructions :)
Noel,
Can a Win Me PC access a network share on a PC running Win 7? Win 7 can
easily access shares on a Win Me machine but the reverse is more difficult.
--
Mike
AFAIK, there shouldn't be any problem with the Win 7 machine getting into
the the ME machine - but as you say, getting the ME machine into Win 7
may be more problematic.
Unfortunately, I no longer have a hardware 9x machine to play with (and
VM's don't count), but I'm sure I could share between Vista and ME back
during the Beta. Things may have changed for Win 7.....
Struggling in my archive to find any references for WIn98/W7
networking. - nope, nothing :(
I may set up a couple of machines to play with - just for the giggles -
but it'd take a few days.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
Joan Archer
2010-02-06 13:00:57 UTC
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Is this any use to you ?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Networking-home-computers-running-different-versions-of-Windows
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-06 21:18:59 UTC
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Tks Joan,
I'll add this link to my new computer help file..
As I was telling Noel, I just purchased the "Dummies" book and I hope
I'll find the over looked problem soon..
(the old brain doesn't work as fast as it use too..)

tks again,
RTS
Post by Joan Archer
Is this any use to you ?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Networking-home-computers-running-different-versions-of-Windows
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Joan Archer
2010-02-07 12:00:49 UTC
Permalink
You're welcome I would think alongside your book and the brains here, I
don't include myself in that, you'll get everything sorted out.
Enjoy using Windows 7 it is a very good OS and once you find your way around
it I think you will come to love using it.
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Tks Joan,
I'll add this link to my new computer help file..
As I was telling Noel, I just purchased the "Dummies" book and I hope
I'll find the over looked problem soon..
(the old brain doesn't work as fast as it use too..)
tks again,
RTS
Post by Joan Archer
Is this any use to you ?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Networking-home-computers-running-different-versions-of-Windows
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Rockytsquirrel
2010-02-07 16:41:17 UTC
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Greetings Joan,
the win 7 so far seem like a real improvement over past MSN products..
I have notice some of the terms they use I have to look up in the old
book, to know what their talking about..
But I guess it will all work out in the end, it usually does..

tks again,
RTS
Post by Joan Archer
You're welcome I would think alongside your book and the brains here, I
don't include myself in that, you'll get everything sorted out.
Enjoy using Windows 7 it is a very good OS and once you find your way
around it I think you will come to love using it.
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Tks Joan,
I'll add this link to my new computer help file..
As I was telling Noel, I just purchased the "Dummies" book and I hope
I'll find the over looked problem soon..
(the old brain doesn't work as fast as it use too..)
tks again,
RTS
Post by Joan Archer
Is this any use to you ?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Networking-home-computers-running-different-versions-of-Windows
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
Corday
2010-02-07 19:31:01 UTC
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I make a simple reply to my friends when asked about a good book for their OS
or other computer needs. Buy the biggest one in the store. It can't always be
the right answer but the batting average is good.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Tks Joan,
I'll add this link to my new computer help file..
As I was telling Noel, I just purchased the "Dummies" book and I hope
I'll find the over looked problem soon..
(the old brain doesn't work as fast as it use too..)
tks again,
RTS
Post by Joan Archer
Is this any use to you ?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Networking-home-computers-running-different-versions-of-Windows
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Rockytsquirrel
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..
RTS
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