Avast Pro

Corday:
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

Harry.

Post by Corday
To get a good handle on what Avast really had in mind for the end of the
year, I Emailed the Sales Dept. asking if I upgraded from free to Pro if I'd
Thank you for your email, and your interest in avast! antivirus products.
We are sorry, the operating systems Windows 95/98/Me/NT4 will be supported
until the end of 2009.
If you are going to purchase our products, it is better for you to upgrade
your operating system to Windows XP " UP TO YOU"
You can download the latest version of avast! 4 Professional Edition from
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!

Mike M

2009-12-12 09:43:02 UTC

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a
surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x
customers well in advance of this change.

--
Mike M

webster72n

2009-12-12 19:05:11 UTC

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is
a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x
customers well in advance of this change.

I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant.
People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is
business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods.
Very sad, I must say. <H>.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Noel Paton

2009-12-12 20:59:29 UTC

It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums
of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and the
income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running
Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic
to support the limited number of users remaining.
That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked
for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers.
Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support
will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier).
The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in
the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end
Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to
be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may
eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running
Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with
'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is
a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x
customers well in advance of this change.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Joan Archer

2009-12-12 21:17:03 UTC

Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're having
fun <g>

John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista
partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing
Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security
Essentials on that OS with no problems.

As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June.

Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for
that one I could put MSE on there as well.
--
Joan Archer
http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large
sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and
the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines
running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly
uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining.
That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be
thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as
penny-pinchers.
Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support
will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier).
The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both
in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and
end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK
seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating.
What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM
for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the
beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this
is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win
9x customers well in advance of this change.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Mike M

2009-12-12 22:07:23 UTC

Joan, I don't think that XP is due to drop out of extended support until
something like 2014 however MS have started there will be no further service
packs.
--
Mike

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're
having fun <g>
John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my
Vista partition but I've not really booted back into that one since
installing Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using
Microsoft Security Essentials on that OS with no problems.
As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June.
Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped
for that one I could put MSE on there as well.

Heather

2009-12-12 22:33:25 UTC

I hope not. Both Joan and I will need *extended support* in 5
years.......she's getting up there and I just pretend I am.....lol.

Kissies, Joanie......from the other old broad!!

Post by Mike M
Joan, I don't think that XP is due to drop out of extended support until
something like 2014 however MS have started there will be no further
service packs.
--
Mike

RockyTSquirrel

2009-12-12 22:22:50 UTC

well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can
handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper..

my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine..

so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by..

Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can
telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a
pain anyway..

and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon
grease and the flavor comes right on through..

now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs
will make the hurt more bearable..

now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or
other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2
thumbs to count with anywho...

I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know
the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times,
when he wanted everybody to just trust him..

so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group..

Rocky T. Squirrel, esq.
Mountain Country USA

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're having
fun <g>
John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista
partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing
Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security
Essentials on that OS with no problems.
As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June.
Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for
that one I could put MSE on there as well.
--
Joan Archer
http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher

accelerating.

Post by Noel Paton
What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM
for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the
beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this
is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win
9x customers well in advance of this change.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

webster72n

2009-12-13 00:46:32 UTC

Post by RockyTSquirrel
well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can
handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper..
my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine..
so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by..
Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can
telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a
pain anyway..
and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon
grease and the flavor comes right on through..
now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs
will make the hurt more bearable..
now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or
other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2
thumbs to count with anywho...
I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know
the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times,
when he wanted everybody to just trust him..
so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group..

That's the spirit, Rocky.
Allow me to thankfully return those merry and happy wishes for Christmas and
the New Year. Make sure to listen to the doctor about the virus treatment
and not overdo it.
Take care,

Harry.

Post by RockyTSquirrel
Rocky T. Squirrel, esq.
Mountain Country USA

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're

having

Post by Joan Archer
fun <g>
John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista
partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing
Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security
Essentials on that OS with no problems.
As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June.
Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for
that one I could put MSE on there as well.
--
Joan Archer
http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite,

Post by Noel Paton
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64,

Post by Noel Paton
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large
sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's -

and

Post by Noel Paton
the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines
running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes

vastly

Post by Noel Paton
uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining.
That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be
thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as
penny-pinchers.
Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support
will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier).
The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely -

both

Post by Noel Paton
in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and
end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK
seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is

accelerating.

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or

not

Post by Mike M
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this
is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win
9x customers well in advance of this change.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Mart

2009-12-13 01:42:17 UTC

Nice story Rocky

Best wishes to all from here, too.

Mart

That's the spirit, Rocky.
Allow me to thankfully return those merry and happy wishes for Christmas
and the New Year. Make sure to listen to the doctor about the virus
treatment and not overdo it.
Take care,
Harry.

Post by RockyTSquirrel
Rocky T. Squirrel, esq.
Mountain Country USA

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're

having

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite,

Post by Noel Paton
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64,

Post by Noel Paton
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large
sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's -

and

Post by Noel Paton
the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines
running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes

vastly

both

accelerating.

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or

not

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

RockyTSquirrel

2009-12-13 02:46:23 UTC

thank you thank you
and to all a good nite.. ;-)

become

Post by RockyTSquirrel
a
pain anyway..
and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon
grease and the flavor comes right on through..
now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs
will make the hurt more bearable..
now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or
other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2
thumbs to count with anywho...
I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know
the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times,
when he wanted everybody to just trust him..
so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group..

Post by RockyTSquirrel
Rocky T. Squirrel, esq.
Mountain Country USA

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're

having

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite,

Post by Noel Paton
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64,

Post by Noel Paton
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large
sums of money to make software compatible with such different

S's -

Post by RockyTSquirrel
and

Post by Noel Paton
the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines
running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes

vastly

both

accelerating.

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or

not

<H>.

Post by RockyTSquirrel

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Joan Archer

2009-12-13 11:12:26 UTC

Nice one Rocky, are you using oil or candle to light your little log cabin
<g>

I'll return the wishes and say to all who still come and visit now and then

A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
Love to you all.
--
Joan Archer
http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're

having

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite,

Post by Noel Paton
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64,

Post by Noel Paton
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large
sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's -

and

Post by Noel Paton
the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines
running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes

vastly

both

accelerating.

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or

not

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

RockyTSquirrel

2009-12-13 15:01:50 UTC

Well now Joan, were on the hill, we got 2 I said 2 twenty-five watt
light bulbs... ;-)
and next year I hope to get another socket for the second one..

Post by Joan Archer
Nice one Rocky, are you using oil or candle to light your little log cabin
<g>
I'll return the wishes and say to all who still come and visit now and then
A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
Love to you all.
--
Joan Archer
http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher

become

Post by Joan Archer
Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're

having

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite,

Post by Noel Paton
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64,

Post by Noel Paton
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large
sums of money to make software compatible with such different

S's -

Post by RockyTSquirrel
and

Post by Noel Paton
the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines
running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes

vastly

both

accelerating.

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or

not

<H>.

Post by RockyTSquirrel

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Corday

2009-12-13 16:53:01 UTC

Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0
still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of reminds me of the
song (Mr. In-between).
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in
order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as
well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums
of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and the
income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running
Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic
to support the limited number of users remaining.
That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked
for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers.
Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support
will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier).
The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in
the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end
Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to
be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may
eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running
Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with
'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by webster72n
They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'.

What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not
their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year.
Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is
a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x
customers well in advance of this change.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike M

Mike M

2009-12-13 22:04:17 UTC

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll miss.
As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64
I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit
other than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result from
application and os bloat. :-)

--
Mike M

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of
reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock

2009-12-18 02:03:18 UTC

Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months ago now.
Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s) were less memory
intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally drove me back to x86.

Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll
miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64
and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit
rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory
demands that result from application and os bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of
reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Heather

2009-12-18 03:10:30 UTC

TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!

Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??

Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months ago now.
Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s) were less
memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally drove me back to
x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll
miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64
and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit
rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory
demands that result from application and os bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of
reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock

2009-12-18 14:52:27 UTC

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??

Until very recently heading Ubuntu. That or it was just a dream!

Merry Xmas Figgsy!

XX

Shane

There're one or two footballers called Figueroa over here these days.
Probably no relation though, eh?

Post by Heather
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s)
were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally
drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat.
:-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind
of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock

2009-12-18 17:32:34 UTC

P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95 groups are
still going though, eh? In which case it'll be inteeresting to see how long
the regulars go on! ROFL!!).

Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.

How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a long time
now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe, since I turned up
here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I now that Sonny and Cher just
started going on about 'The Beat', going on. La de da de dee. It's like they
say about our 'bobbies', when you want a pine tree there's never one around!

What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn my
advances back when we were young!

Later.

Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s)
were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally
drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat.
:-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind
of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

webster72n

2009-12-18 18:33:38 UTC

Pardon the interruption, Shane, or is it Tarquin?
Mighty good to 'hear' from you again and know you are all right (?)
Was wondering about the 'blind' effect on Figg's husband myself, but assumed
it to be true <bg>.
This group will live forever, almost, depending on our life span.
The best to you and Figgs, and everyone here now and always,

Harry.

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95 groups are
still going though, eh? In which case it'll be inteeresting to see how
long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a long time
now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe, since I turned up
here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I now that Sonny and Cher
just started going on about 'The Beat', going on. La de da de dee. It's
like they say about our 'bobbies', when you want a pine tree there's never
one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn my
advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s)
were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally
drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat.
:-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind
of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke

2009-12-19 01:36:32 UTC

It's Morgan, Harry. Or possibly Potter, Colonel? Anyway my inner Welshman
decided to take the controls for a few hours, to make Joan and Noel feel at
home!

Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).

Merry Xmas to you either way.

Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing that led me
back here today in fact!

Morgan

Post by webster72n
Pardon the interruption, Shane, or is it Tarquin?
Mighty good to 'hear' from you again and know you are all right (?)
Was wondering about the 'blind' effect on Figg's husband myself, but
assumed it to be true <bg>.
This group will live forever, almost, depending on our life span.
The best to you and Figgs, and everyone here now and always,
Harry.

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95 groups
are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be inteeresting to
see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a long
time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe, since I
turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I now that
Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat', going on. La
de da de dee. It's like they say about our 'bobbies', when you want
a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn my
advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64
beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what
finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os
bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!

Joan Archer

2009-12-19 12:18:47 UTC

Neither is Noel you numpty <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
It's Morgan, Harry. Or possibly Potter, Colonel? Anyway my inner Welshman
decided to take the controls for a few hours, to make Joan and Noel feel
at home!
Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).
Merry Xmas to you either way.
Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing that led
me back here today in fact!
Morgan

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95 groups
are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be inteeresting to
see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a long
time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe, since I
turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I now that
Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat', going on. La
de da de dee. It's like they say about our 'bobbies', when you want
a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn my
advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64
beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what
finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os
bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!

Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke

2009-12-19 12:34:25 UTC

So he says!

Post by Joan Archer
Neither is Noel you numpty <g>

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
It's Morgan, Harry. Or possibly Potter, Colonel? Anyway my inner
Welshman decided to take the controls for a few hours, to make Joan
and Noel feel at home!
Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).
Merry Xmas to you either way.
Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing that
led me back here today in fact!
Morgan

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95
groups are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be
inteeresting to see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a
long time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe,
since I turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I
now that Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat',
going on. La de da de dee. It's like they say about our 'bobbies',
when you want a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn
my advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64
beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what
finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running
both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling
reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps
due to the increased memory demands that result from
application and os bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!

Noel Paton

2009-12-19 19:58:44 UTC

Oi! - Wotcher mate!!
I'll get the lads onter yer!
...... nah - can't be bovvered.......
I might have many problems, but being welsh is not one of them :)
Living in Wales maybe......
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
So he says!

Post by Joan Archer
Neither is Noel you numpty <g>

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
It's Morgan, Harry. Or possibly Potter, Colonel? Anyway my inner
Welshman decided to take the controls for a few hours, to make Joan
and Noel feel at home!
Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).
Merry Xmas to you either way.
Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing that
led me back here today in fact!
Morgan

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95
groups are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be
inteeresting to see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a
long time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe,
since I turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I
now that Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat',
going on. La de da de dee. It's like they say about our 'bobbies',
when you want a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn
my advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64
beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what
finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running
both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling
reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps
due to the increased memory demands that result from
application and os bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!

Heather

2009-12-19 21:57:42 UTC

Lordy, is that "Bow Bells"???? We have allowed the odd (emphasis on ODD)
Cockney into this country, but no one can understand them, so they are sent
to night school to learn English as a Second
Language...............ROFL!!!!!

Post by Noel Paton
Oi! - Wotcher mate!!
I'll get the lads onter yer!
...... nah - can't be bovvered.......
I might have many problems, but being welsh is not one of them :)
Living in Wales maybe......
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
So he says!

Post by Joan Archer
Neither is Noel you numpty <g>

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
It's Morgan, Harry. Or possibly Potter, Colonel? Anyway my inner
Welshman decided to take the controls for a few hours, to make Joan
and Noel feel at home!
Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).
Merry Xmas to you either way.
Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing that
led me back here today in fact!
Morgan

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95
groups are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be
inteeresting to see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a
long time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe,
since I turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I
now that Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat',
going on. La de da de dee. It's like they say about our 'bobbies',
when you want a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn
my advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64
beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what
finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running
both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling
reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps
due to the increased memory demands that result from
application and os bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!

Mike M

2009-12-20 00:35:49 UTC

Post by Heather
Lordy, is that "Bow Bells"???? We have allowed the odd (emphasis on
ODD) Cockney into this country, but no one can understand them, so
they are sent to night school to learn English as a Second
Language...............ROFL!!!!!

There's often confusion about what is a Cockney. "Technically" to be a
Cockney one has to be born "within the sound of Bow Bells", however the Bow
Bells are those of St Mary le Bow in Cheapside which is not in Bow nor in
the east end of London but instead quite near to St Pauls in the City
although today many think that being born in the east end of London means
that they are a cockney. As it happens both of my parents were born in the
London Borough of Holborn less than a mile from St Mary Le Bow (not that
they met until nearly 30 years later and many miles from Holborn) so
technically both were cockneys however neither spoke with either a cockney
or east end accent.

--
Mike

webster72n

2009-12-20 02:12:43 UTC

There's often confusion about what is a Cockney. "Technically" to be a
Cockney one has to be born "within the sound of Bow Bells", however the
Bow Bells are those of St Mary le Bow in Cheapside which is not in Bow nor
in the east end of London but instead quite near to St Pauls in the City
although today many think that being born in the east end of London means
that they are a cockney. As it happens both of my parents were born in
the London Borough of Holborn less than a mile from St Mary Le Bow (not
that they met until nearly 30 years later and many miles from Holborn) so
technically both were cockneys however neither spoke with either a cockney
or east end accent.

Somewhat confusing to an outsider but, nevertheless, believable <g>.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike

Heather

2009-12-20 04:05:41 UTC

Thanks, Mikey............but I won't try and tell a Canadian that cuz we all
think of it as you say...."within the sound of Bow Bells"....even the
Cockneys say yes to that. As for the Yanks, well..........they won't have a
clue as to what we are talking about. (G)

Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the Mandarin
Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast?? It is always
Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all as well.

Hugs.........Heather and Ron

There's often confusion about what is a Cockney. "Technically" to be a
Cockney one has to be born "within the sound of Bow Bells", however the
Bow Bells are those of St Mary le Bow in Cheapside which is not in Bow nor
in the east end of London but instead quite near to St Pauls in the City
although today many think that being born in the east end of London means
that they are a cockney. As it happens both of my parents were born in
the London Borough of Holborn less than a mile from St Mary Le Bow (not
that they met until nearly 30 years later and many miles from Holborn) so
technically both were cockneys however neither spoke with either a cockney
or east end accent.
--
Mike

RockyTSquirrel

2009-12-20 04:39:16 UTC

well now for one "yank" i have no problem with the English, so long
as they leave those god off-el wiggs at home..

God Save The Queen, what -ho....

Post by Heather
Thanks, Mikey............but I won't try and tell a Canadian that cuz we all
think of it as you say...."within the sound of Bow Bells"....even the
Cockneys say yes to that. As for the Yanks, well..........they won't have a
clue as to what we are talking about. (G)
Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the Mandarin
Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast?? It is always
Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all as well.
Hugs.........Heather and Ron

There's often confusion about what is a Cockney. "Technically" to be a
Cockney one has to be born "within the sound of Bow Bells", however the
Bow Bells are those of St Mary le Bow in Cheapside which is not in Bow nor
in the east end of London but instead quite near to St Pauls in the City
although today many think that being born in the east end of London means
that they are a cockney. As it happens both of my parents were born in
the London Borough of Holborn less than a mile from St Mary Le Bow (not
that they met until nearly 30 years later and many miles from Holborn) so
technically both were cockneys however neither spoke with either a cockney
or east end accent.
--
Mike

Mike M

2009-12-20 12:33:09 UTC

Where's the problem? Within the sound of Bow Bells is correct. The only
confusion is to where those bells are located with their actual location
being the church of St Mary Le Bow in the city rather than in the district
known as Bow which is 5km to the east and in what is thought of as the east
end. I'm sure that on a still day in the 19th Century before noisy traffic
and aircraft came to plague our lives it was quite possible to hear the
sound of Bow Bells when in Bow, that is of course, assuming that one could
distinguish them from all of the other church bells that then existed.

Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How about
sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?

Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are reading
this.
--
Mike

Post by Heather
Thanks, Mikey............but I won't try and tell a Canadian that cuz
we all think of it as you say...."within the sound of Bow
Bells"....even the Cockneys say yes to that. As for the Yanks,
well..........they won't have a clue as to what we are talking about.
(G)
Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the
Mandarin Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast?? It is
always Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all
as well.

webster72n

2009-12-20 20:47:01 UTC

Post by Mike M
Where's the problem? Within the sound of Bow Bells is correct. The only
confusion is to where those bells are located with their actual location
being the church of St Mary Le Bow in the city rather than in the district
known as Bow which is 5km to the east and in what is thought of as the
east end. I'm sure that on a still day in the 19th Century before noisy
traffic and aircraft came to plague our lives it was quite possible to
hear the sound of Bow Bells when in Bow, that is of course, assuming that
one could distinguish them from all of the other church bells that then
existed.
Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How about
sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?
Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are reading
this.

Thanks, Mike. I think to have the picture in focus now, about the 'Bow
Bells' I mean, and best wishes to you also.

Harry.

Post by Mike M
--
Mike

Post by Heather
Thanks, Mikey............but I won't try and tell a Canadian that cuz
we all think of it as you say...."within the sound of Bow
Bells"....even the Cockneys say yes to that. As for the Yanks,
well..........they won't have a clue as to what we are talking about.
(G)
Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the
Mandarin Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast?? It is
always Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all
as well.

Heather

2009-12-20 21:25:00 UTC

Post by Mike M
Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How about
sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?

Chuckle!! The shrimp were huge and the crablegs were very sweet.....yummy!!
The Mandarin is one of the best and most well-known Chinese Buffet in Canada
and it started right here in Brampton. We love it!! Won ton
soup.........salads......and they even have "flan" but over here it is
called "creme caramel". Strawberries dipped in
chocolate.........Sigh...........gained a pound or two.

Tonight is a medium rare T-Bone roast of beef with onions and potatoes
around it. Those two are having brussel sprouts (double
yuck)..........hungry again?? See, you have to fly over for a week or so to
have a taste. And a Tim Hortons donut, lol. The national food of
Canada.....forget maple syrup.

Elayne sends her best back to you all and she is in the basement helping her
dad set up shelving and is also tackling my jewellery making room so she can
find room to sit down. (G) It was my dining room, but no longer.

Big hugs from all..........Ron, Heather & the Mouse

Post by Mike M
Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are reading
this.
--
Mike

Post by Heather
Thanks, Mikey............but I won't try and tell a Canadian that cuz
we all think of it as you say...."within the sound of Bow
Bells"....even the Cockneys say yes to that. As for the Yanks,
well..........they won't have a clue as to what we are talking about.
(G)
Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the
Mandarin Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast?? It is
always Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all
as well.

Shane

2009-12-22 02:03:38 UTC

I was born within the gurgle of Bow Locks!

:-)

By which I mean (at a push) how most of my mates when I was a nipper in
Basingstoke, were also from London, and pretty much every last one of us
claimed to be a Cockney at some point, though I don't recall a single one of
us being from that way. For a while I thought I was from the Sarf, though
really I'm from the West - which was of course one of the posher parts
before I was born.

Just trying to remember the rhyme. Oranges and Lemons and a partridge, in a
pear tree; Christ I don't know! said the great bell of Bow; So are you rich,
said the grasping old bitch. Something like that. It is a long time since I
heard it though so I wouldn't swear to anything.

Post by Mike M
Where's the problem? Within the sound of Bow Bells is correct. The
only confusion is to where those bells are located with their actual
location being the church of St Mary Le Bow in the city rather than
in the district known as Bow which is 5km to the east and in what is
thought of as the east end. I'm sure that on a still day in the 19th
Century before noisy traffic and aircraft came to plague our lives it
was quite possible to hear the sound of Bow Bells when in Bow, that
is of course, assuming that one could distinguish them from all of
the other church bells that then existed.
Feast! Now that sounds good, shrimp and crab legs, yum yum. How
about sending a doggie bag over disguised as an aid package?
Say hi to Elayne for me and cheers and best wishes to all who are
reading this.

Post by Heather
Thanks, Mikey............but I won't try and tell a Canadian that cuz
we all think of it as you say...."within the sound of Bow
Bells"....even the Cockneys say yes to that. As for the Yanks,
well..........they won't have a clue as to what we are talking about.
(G)
Just back from a huge feed of shrimp and crab legs.........at the
Mandarin Buffet. All you can eat. Want to come over for a feast??
It is always Elayne's first restaurant request. She says HI to all
as well.

Shane

2009-12-22 01:43:49 UTC

Post by Noel Paton
Oi! - Wotcher mate!!
I'll get the lads onter yer!
...... nah - can't be bovvered.......
I might have many problems, but being welsh is not one of them :)

Ha! Wish I could say supporting Tottenham was one of them. But then I also
wish I hadn't eaten so many mince pies tonight, so it just goes to show,
really. If wishes were horses, mine would win the National.

Still quiet here then. See I'm posting from WinMe (VM) just to show some
solidarity (but so much for Cool Type)? Elsewhere people are still
rubbishing Me as a great big FAIL, but it is still the only pre-XP version I
actually don't mind running.

So, is that a Catherine Tate reference? I don't think she does anything any
more like the one where she's dumping her boyfriend (Mark Heap) for a
temporary traffic light. Shame.

Of is it because you know I'm a Chelsea supporter of a certain age?

Post by Noel Paton
Living in Wales maybe......
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
So he says!

Post by Joan Archer
Neither is Noel you numpty <g>

Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
It's Morgan, Harry. Or possibly Potter, Colonel? Anyway my inner
Welshman decided to take the controls for a few hours, to make Joan
and Noel feel at home!
Of course, Joan isn't Welsh (I keep forgetting!).
Merry Xmas to you either way.
Actually I just realised why I put my Morgan hat on. Same thing
that led me back here today in fact!
Morgan

Post by webster72n
Pardon the interruption, Shane, or is it Tarquin?
Mighty good to 'hear' from you again and know you are all right
(?) Was wondering about the 'blind' effect on Figg's husband
myself, but assumed it to be true <bg>.
This group will live forever, almost, depending on our life span.
The best to you and Figgs, and everyone here now and always,
Harry.

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll
be interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95
groups are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be
inteeresting to see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind'
is exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a
long time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe,
since I turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I
now that Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat',
going on. La de da de dee. It's like they say about our
'bobbies', when you want a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn
my advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some
months ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server
2008 x64 beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64,
which is what finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old
OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not
something I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have
PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a
compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other
than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result
from application and os bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old
OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!

Noel Paton

2009-12-22 08:37:20 UTC

Post by Noel Paton
Oi! - Wotcher mate!!
I'll get the lads onter yer!
...... nah - can't be bovvered.......
I might have many problems, but being welsh is not one of them :)

<snip>

Post by Shane
Of is it because you know I'm a Chelsea supporter of a certain age?

It could be worse - you could be an Arsenal supporter! <ptui!>

--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk

Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke

2009-12-22 11:26:33 UTC

Post by Noel Paton
Oi! - Wotcher mate!!
I'll get the lads onter yer!
...... nah - can't be bovvered.......
I might have many problems, but being welsh is not one of them :)

<snip>

Post by Shane
Of is it because you know I'm a Chelsea supporter of a certain age?

It could be worse - you could be an Arsenal supporter! <ptui!>

That would be bad on so many levels!

Heather

2009-12-19 02:44:36 UTC

Hi Puss....

I will try and answer the pertinent points.....but glad to see you back. My
computer went nuts on me today cuz either a) I changed the batteries in my
wireless keyboard, or b) Rogers was fixing a problem from their end, but it
sure was a rather bizarre experience. Flying OE's and IE's, if I tried to
type, it did the same letter (zoom) across the page, crashed, went into Safe
Mode, and I believe I saw a tear or two dripping down the monitor. (G)
Using an old MS keyboard here, but at least there are letters on it. For
some odd reason, I wear them off. (quiet, you lot!!)

Ron is not blind, but he is flippin' deaf when it comes to my voice, grin.
And she of the slim hips arrived on Wed. morning for 2 weeks, so we have
been shopping, natch. Jewellery design is next on the list. Sadly, we lost
Casey on Sept. 28th to cancer. It took me a long time to get over losing
that silly puss!! I never realized how much I adored him. He was my
baby...............Ron's too. We still expect him to amble around the
corner looking for treats. How is Rosie?? Is she still with you?

Off to go eat some brownies that slim hips made. Guess they won't be all
that slim from here on in, lol. She made out a list of what she wanted for
supper each night and actually that is a good idea. Takes the guesswork out
of "what shall we have for supper tonight".

All the best and glad to see you back on here. We should meet up once a
month or some such and keep the old group going.

XX Figgs

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s)
were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally
drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat.
:-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind
of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Shane

2009-12-22 02:57:46 UTC

tear or two dripping down the monitor. (G) Using an old MS keyboard
here, but at least there are letters on it. For some odd reason, I

I've got a Lenovo. Not that I'd get another - and as I confirmed to Joan
months ago I'll almost certainly build the next one myself. Anyway, I
finally got so fed up with the Lenovo/IBM USB keyboard I ripped it out of
the workstation and smashed it repeatedly on the floor. That's Lenovo/IBM
hardware for you! Then I dug out the cheapo Chinese PS2 keyboard that came
with the previous - WinMe - computer and instantly I had the responsiveness
back that had been driving me slowly up the wall the last two years! So
basically I'm using a ten year old keyboard here and it's just fine! A bit
like the really old Sony Trintron TV. It must be 20 years old and it works
just fine and I feel like if I replaced it with a widescreen LCD job I'd be
such an ingrate and the very least I should do is give it to a museum where
it'll be used daily.

Ron is not blind, but he is flippin' deaf when it comes to my voice,
grin. And she of the slim hips arrived on Wed. morning for 2 weeks,
so we have been shopping, natch. Jewellery design is next on the
list. Sadly, we lost Casey on Sept. 28th to cancer. It took me a
long time to get over losing that silly puss!! I never realized how
much I adored him. He was my baby...............Ron's too. We still
expect him to amble around the corner looking for treats. How is
Rosie?? Is she still with you?

Well, glad to hear Ron is sound as a Bow bell, but sad to hear about Casey.
Perhaps you'd better get another so I can send some more mice over. Though
with our increasingly fascist government, I'd probably go to prison for it.
Yes, Rosie's fine. Only problem with her is it is approaching 3am and I'm
beginning to desperately want to get to bed, but any moment now she'll arise
from her igloo-thing and want to go out. Mind you its my fault for still
being up at this time. At least she doesn't stay out long in this cold,
though I gather as ever you've got it worse than we have!

Off to go eat some brownies that slim hips made. Guess they won't be
all that slim from here on in, lol. She made out a list of what she
wanted for supper each night and actually that is a good idea. Takes
the guesswork out of "what shall we have for supper tonight".

You know, that's what I would want to do but resist doing because I'd figure
you'd think I was a bit strange. Which is itself a bit strange, isn't it. I
cook dinner and the moment it's gone try to figure out what to do tomorrow.
Sometimes I worry myself (I'm serious!).

I'm going to have to go to town and get linguini and a particular Aussie
white!

I must figure out what goes well with Jack Daniels (as an ingredient).

I made mince pies earlier. I'm getting quite good at pastry lately! I ate
nine of them before they were cool.

All the best and glad to see you back on here. We should meet up
once a month or some such and keep the old group going.

Glad to see you again too Figgs! But as for coming back monthly: I'd have to
be reliable, wouldn't I? Can't see it, myself!

XX Figgs

I'll see your XX and raise you X!

Shane

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
P'raps I'll make a point of only turning up at Christmas! It'll be
interesting to see how long that goes on (I expect the Win 95 groups
are still going though, eh? In which case it'll be inteeresting to
see how long the regulars go on! ROFL!!).
Anyway, how is everyone? I trust the bit about Ron being 'blind' is
exaggeration? Hope so.
How's my mate Casey? Kind of fearful asking that. It has been a long
time now! It is 9 years more-or-less to the day, I believe, since I
turned up here. So Mike must be feeling real old! So am I now that
Sonny and Cher just started going on about 'The Beat', going on. La
de da de dee. It's like they say about our 'bobbies', when you want
a pine tree there's never one around!
What about her with the hips? Well, I hope, even if she did spurn my
advances back when we were young!
Later.
Shane. Or someone like him.

Post by Heather
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been??
Kissies......Figgs

Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months
ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64
beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what
finally drove me back to x86.
Shane

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines.

That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something
I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both
Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to
running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the
increased memory demands that result from application and os
bloat. :-)

Post by Corday
Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs,
but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit
machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between).

Shane

2009-12-22 03:02:57 UTC

and instantly I had the responsiveness back *the absense of which* had

been driving me

slowly up the wall the last two years! So basically I'm using a ten

Shane

2009-12-22 03:10:14 UTC

Post by Shane
Well, glad to hear Ron is sound as a Bow bell, but sad to hear about
Casey. Perhaps you'd better get another so I can send some more mice

Just to explain about that, as it looks a bit insensitive. You know Rosie
was my fourth cat in four years and the first in that time I didn't have
euthanased! Along the way I came to the conclusion that the only thing you
can do is honour their species by going to a shelter and adopting another.

I'd have put it less coldly if I were more awake!

Shane

Heather

2009-12-22 04:47:41 UTC

Post by Shane
Well, glad to hear Ron is sound as a Bow bell, but sad to hear about
Casey. Perhaps you'd better get another so I can send some more mice

Hey hunny bunny..........I never thought for one nanosecond that you were
being insensitive. It is natural to think we should get another cat, but
after 40 years of good and bad, we can't. Casey was the best cat ever
(except for constant furballs) and oddly enough seemed to understand most
things we said to him. He sure was a character. It will take a while to
stop having meltdowns, but that's OK. Had one today, in fact. Elayne says
she still does after 2 years (she lost 2 in 5 months that were approaching
18 yrs. of age).........now she has a cute little Shih Tsu (half Havanese)
and adores him. He looks like those pictures of Obama's Bo when he first
came to the white house.

Night........and best for the holidays........the 3 Figgs

Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke

2009-12-22 11:25:20 UTC

Post by Heather

Post by Shane
Well, glad to hear Ron is sound as a Bow bell, but sad to hear about
Casey. Perhaps you'd better get another so I can send some more mice

Just to explain about that, as it looks a bit insensitive. You know
Rosie was my fourth cat in four years and the first in that time I
didn't have euthanased! Along the way I came to the conclusion that
the only thing you can do is honour their species by going to a
shelter and adopting another. I'd have put it less coldly if I were more
awake!

I think *we* get to understand them more with each passing year and they us,
so after half a lifetime or more of having cats we've almost crossed the
communication divide and the only thing stopping it is *they* don't have
long enough. If they lived as long as us we'd be having quite complex
conversations with them by the end. As it is we get just the hint of what
could be if things weren't quite as they are.

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock

2009-12-18 02:48:37 UTC

Depends on your definition of 'support' I guess, Noel. I can't see the likes
of Eset dropping XP support as soon as 2014/15. Indeed you can still
download NOD32 v2.7 for 9x (which even still runs in Win 95B!).

NT NOD32 v2 can be easily run as a standalone scanner, for instance on
BartPE and thumbdrives, though nod32.exe, amon.sys et al haven't been
updated since last Feb though the defs still are. Not sure if the
implication is they're no longer providing program updates for v2.7 but no
reason yet to assume that is the case.

I guess that users who keep running Me will want to avoid the outlay on a
more recent machine. In which case paying for AV while not ideal is
certainly the cheaper alternative. The point being that just because the
free ones will no longer support 9x, doesn't mean no AV will.

AB

Post by Noel Paton
It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP.
I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic
rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of
coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has
to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with
such different OS's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting
smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply
replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the
limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some
time ago - and Avast should be
thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as
penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect
that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe
earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end
completely -
both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the
bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines
here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this
process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes
bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported.
We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability
in some Win7 versions.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk