Discussion:
Free and not free AV for 98 and how to get around the problem
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98 Guy
2010-03-05 01:12:04 UTC
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I might as well post this to our friends using Windows ME, since NAV
2002 is equally suitable for that maligned operating system.
Take your garbage and ignorance back to where ever you came from
You forgot to full-quote me. Why are you not consistent in that regard?
The product you suggest has NO comprehension of the exploits and
methods being used today
NAV 2002 can be updated from Symantec such that it has the most current
virus signatures and scan-engine - equal to any symantec product being
sold today.

And you can get it as part of Norton SystemWorks 2002.

How you ask? By following these instructions:

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The Norton SystemWorks 2002 CD can be downloaded from these links:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-D.ZIP

The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50 mb
in size.

When unzipped, you'll get

NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz

Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.

Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3 into
that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should be no
conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.

For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.

When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and 13
folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.

To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.

Notes:

1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove some
or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to install
itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's clock/calendar is
set to the correct date.

2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and look
for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*". If you
find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory) then it
must be deleted before you install this software.

3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option of
registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.

4) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
updates and virus definitions from here (Symantec Intelligent Updater):

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/norton_antivirus/static/symcdefsi32.exe

That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).

5) After installing NSW 2002, you'll see that NAV 2002 will accept new
virus definition files for the next 366 days. After that, the
Intelligent Updater will not update the product. But that's ok, because
all you need to do is un-install and re-install NSW 2002 to get another
year's worth of functionality (so don't delete these files once you
download them! Keep them on your hard drive or burn them to a CD). One
thing to remember is that after uninstalling it, you will need to delete
the file "catalog.livesubscribe" in order to re-install and re-activate
it for another year.

6) If you have a large hard drive and/or if you've got a FAT-32 volume
with more than the usual 4 million clusters (perhaps a SATA or USB
drive), Norton Disk Doctor and Norton Speed disk are compatible with
volumes with up to 6.3 million clusters, but not more without using the
command-line parameter /NOLBA. When using this parameter, the upper
limit for NDD and SD is somewhere between 7.8 and 31 million clusters.
The switch /NOLBA forces NDD and SD to skip the drive configuration
check. This can also be done with a registry entry by adding a DWORD
registry value named NOLBACHECK at this location:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Symantec\Norton Utilities

When this option is set to 1, Norton Disk Doctor and Speed Disk skip the
drive configuration check.

5) BTW, NAV 2002 runs fine on Win-2K and XP (sp1, 2 and 3).

Norton SystemWorks 2002 CD includes:

- Norton CleanSweep 2002
- Norton AntiVirus 2002
- Norton Utilities 2002
- Roxio GoBack 3.0
- FastSafe (Fast & Safe Cleanup)
- Symantec Process Viewer
- Norton Rescue Disk version 15.0
- Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.50.4134.600

Enjoy
MEB
2010-03-05 03:05:18 UTC
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Post by 98 Guy
I might as well post this to our friends using Windows ME, since NAV
2002 is equally suitable for that maligned operating system.
Take your garbage and ignorance back to where ever you came from
You forgot to full-quote me. Why are you not consistent in that regard?
The product you suggest has NO comprehension of the exploits and
methods being used today
NAV 2002 can be updated from Symantec such that it has the most current
virus signatures and scan-engine - equal to any symantec product being
sold today.
Really. So you haven't a clue how many Norton AV systems have been
infected recently... how comforting Win9X and ME users to know YOU
haven't a clue...

Take your mental issues back to that mental illness group where you
came from, I did ask politely.

Will someone get this aioe.org server input killed please.
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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
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webster72n
2010-03-05 03:28:01 UTC
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Post by MEB
Post by 98 Guy
I might as well post this to our friends using Windows ME, since NAV
2002 is equally suitable for that maligned operating system.
Take your garbage and ignorance back to where ever you came from
You forgot to full-quote me. Why are you not consistent in that regard?
The product you suggest has NO comprehension of the exploits and
methods being used today
NAV 2002 can be updated from Symantec such that it has the most current
virus signatures and scan-engine - equal to any symantec product being
sold today.
Really. So you haven't a clue how many Norton AV systems have been
infected recently... how comforting Win9X and ME users to know YOU
haven't a clue...
Take your mental issues back to that mental illness group where you
came from, I did ask politely.
Will someone get this aioe.org server input killed please.
With all due respect, MEB, that will have to start with you.

Harry.
Post by MEB
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
thanatoid
2010-03-05 05:37:00 UTC
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Post by 98 Guy
I might as well post this to our friends using Windows ME,
since NAV 2002 is equally suitable for that maligned
operating system.
Take your garbage and ignorance back to where ever you
came from
You forgot to full-quote me. Why are you not consistent in
that regard?
Maybe because your kind shouldn't even be allowed out of their
holes, for lack of a better expression?
Post by 98 Guy
The product you suggest has NO comprehension of the
exploits and
methods being used today
NAV 2002 can be updated from Symantec such that it has the
most current virus signatures and scan-engine - equal to
any symantec product being sold today.
And, presumably, is the same garbage that Symantec has been
churning out for about ten years now.
--
The lonely child plays with eternity, while a gang of children
plays with time.
Karel Capek
Corday
2010-03-05 15:29:01 UTC
Permalink
What 98 Guy says is true and you'll have reasonable AV protection. The
problem is Norton and the WindowsME OS are rather incompatible and other
problems will arise which is OK if you don't mind doing a clean OS install
every so often.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
Post by 98 Guy
I might as well post this to our friends using Windows ME, since NAV
2002 is equally suitable for that maligned operating system.
Take your garbage and ignorance back to where ever you came from
You forgot to full-quote me. Why are you not consistent in that regard?
The product you suggest has NO comprehension of the exploits and
methods being used today
NAV 2002 can be updated from Symantec such that it has the most current
virus signatures and scan-engine - equal to any symantec product being
sold today.
And you can get it as part of Norton SystemWorks 2002.
------------------
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-D.ZIP
The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50 mb
in size.
When unzipped, you'll get
NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz
Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.
Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3 into
that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should be no
conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.
For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.
When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and 13
folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.
To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.
1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove some
or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to install
itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's clock/calendar is
set to the correct date.
2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and look
for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*". If you
find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory) then it
must be deleted before you install this software.
3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option of
registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.
4) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/norton_antivirus/static/symcdefsi32.exe
That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).
5) After installing NSW 2002, you'll see that NAV 2002 will accept new
virus definition files for the next 366 days. After that, the
Intelligent Updater will not update the product. But that's ok, because
all you need to do is un-install and re-install NSW 2002 to get another
year's worth of functionality (so don't delete these files once you
download them! Keep them on your hard drive or burn them to a CD). One
thing to remember is that after uninstalling it, you will need to delete
the file "catalog.livesubscribe" in order to re-install and re-activate
it for another year.
6) If you have a large hard drive and/or if you've got a FAT-32 volume
with more than the usual 4 million clusters (perhaps a SATA or USB
drive), Norton Disk Doctor and Norton Speed disk are compatible with
volumes with up to 6.3 million clusters, but not more without using the
command-line parameter /NOLBA. When using this parameter, the upper
limit for NDD and SD is somewhere between 7.8 and 31 million clusters.
The switch /NOLBA forces NDD and SD to skip the drive configuration
check. This can also be done with a registry entry by adding a DWORD
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Symantec\Norton Utilities
When this option is set to 1, Norton Disk Doctor and Speed Disk skip the
drive configuration check.
5) BTW, NAV 2002 runs fine on Win-2K and XP (sp1, 2 and 3).
- Norton CleanSweep 2002
- Norton AntiVirus 2002
- Norton Utilities 2002
- Roxio GoBack 3.0
- FastSafe (Fast & Safe Cleanup)
- Symantec Process Viewer
- Norton Rescue Disk version 15.0
- Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.50.4134.600
Enjoy
.
thanatoid
2010-03-06 00:29:47 UTC
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