Discussion:
Text Case Problem
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caroloyl
2009-09-23 20:17:16 UTC
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I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Mart
2009-09-24 04:10:20 UTC
Permalink
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in WinMe
which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed that
this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to be the
current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this phenomenon.
However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How Windows
Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
caroloyl
2009-09-25 08:58:42 UTC
Permalink
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-
"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690
"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)
Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Mart
2009-09-25 09:38:55 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old WinMe
boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw it raised
in these news group pages quite some years ago.

Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can offer
anything. Best of luck.

Mart
Post by caroloyl
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-
"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690
"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)
Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
webster72n
2009-09-25 17:52:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw it
raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
<H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-
"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690
"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)
Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Mart
2009-09-25 18:05:14 UTC
Permalink
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there are
quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of which I do
remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor intend to try <g>)
Renaming them.

Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw
it raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
<H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-
"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690
"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)
Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters
only
for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
RockyTSquirrel
2009-09-25 19:42:22 UTC
Permalink
Mart & Webster72n,
I've noticed some file name capping on this ME machine, but usually only
when I'm working on up/dwn loading web pages..
It's a habit now to just check and rename on the server any and all changes
that take place..
As for the onboard HD's I've only seen a very few changes on the C drive
and never any on the D drive..

RTS
Post by Mart
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there are
quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of which I do
remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor intend to try <g>)
Renaming them.
Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw
it raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
<H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-
"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690
"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)
Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still
appears
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages,
that
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS).
Longer
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters
only
for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
webster72n
2009-09-25 22:46:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by RockyTSquirrel
Mart & Webster72n,
I've noticed some file name capping on this ME machine, but usually only
when I'm working on up/dwn loading web pages..
It's a habit now to just check and rename on the server any and all changes
that take place..
As for the onboard HD's I've only seen a very few changes on the C drive
and never any on the D drive..
Never did any uploading, but downloading is no problem either.
Should it ever happen to me, I'll tolerate it in Mart's fashion, if he can
do it, so can I <g>. <H>.
Post by RockyTSquirrel
RTS
Post by Mart
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there are
quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of which I do
remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor intend to try <g>)
Renaming them.
Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change
issue
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw
it raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
<H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter
...
and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will
try
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-
"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690
"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround
sections)
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has
confirmed
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still
appears
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages,
that
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB
drive.
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder
and
file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS).
Longer
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
Post by Mart
Post by caroloyl
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters
only
for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
2009-12-18 02:33:46 UTC
Permalink
Ha!

I don't *think* I ever posted this tardily before, so why not? Herb
Trousers' 'The Rename' runs on 9x and is excellent for renaming en masse.
For instance, you can change case to first letter of each word capitalised.
The could change said case of every file on C: (bar, I suppose, in use
stuff) by starting in C: and selecting sub-folders, then every file in the
subsequent list. Course it would probably take a *long* time, not least due
to obvious hardware limitations on a box still running Me!

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there
are quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of
which I do remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor
intend to try <g>) Renaming them.
Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change
issue was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it'
on my old WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus
when I first saw it raised in these news group pages quite some
years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my
machine. <H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel
can offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately
the renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b
Will try the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute
issues in WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB
articles:- "Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After
Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690 "System
Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround
sections) Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft
has
confirmed that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename'
workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or
XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB
drive. When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all
folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS
version is inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is
there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case
letters only
for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Mart
2009-12-18 11:32:38 UTC
Permalink
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.

Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
Making it a bit of a pointless exercise, especially in my case where it made
absolutely no real odds to me what case it was in. Just lived with it.

HT
Ha!
I don't *think* I ever posted this tardily before, so why not? Herb
Trousers' 'The Rename' runs on 9x and is excellent for renaming en masse.
For instance, you can change case to first letter of each word
capitalised.
The could change said case of every file on C: (bar, I suppose, in use
stuff) by starting in C: and selecting sub-folders, then every file in the
subsequent list. Course it would probably take a *long* time, not least due
to obvious hardware limitations on a box still running Me!
Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there
are quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of
which I do remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor
intend to try <g>) Renaming them.
Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change
issue was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it'
on my old WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus
when I first saw it raised in these news group pages quite some
years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my
machine. <H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel
can offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately
the renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b
Will try the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute
issues in WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB
articles:- "Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After
Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690 "System
Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround
sections) Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft
has
confirmed that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename'
workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or
XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB
drive. When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all
folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS
version is inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is
there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case
letters only
for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
2009-12-18 14:48:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The point was that
you can even do that. Or - you can view all files but just select those all
in uppercase. In fact you can do just about anything you feel like with the
proviso that renaming system files rather than simply changing case is a bad
idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
Post by Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy to fix.
But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair enough...

AB
Post by Mart
Making it a bit of a pointless exercise, especially in my case where
it made absolutely no real odds to me what case it was in. Just lived
with it.
HT
Ha!
I don't *think* I ever posted this tardily before, so why not? Herb
Trousers' 'The Rename' runs on 9x and is excellent for renaming en
masse. For instance, you can change case to first letter of each word
capitalised.
The could change said case of every file on C: (bar, I suppose, in
use stuff) by starting in C: and selecting sub-folders, then every
file in the subsequent list. Course it would probably take a *long*
time, not least due
to obvious hardware limitations on a box still running Me!
Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there
are quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of
which I do remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor
intend to try <g>) Renaming them.
Mart
Post by webster72n
Post by Mart
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random
case-change issue was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just
'living with it' on my old WinMe boxes and I think that was the
general consensus when I first saw it raised in these news group
pages quite some years ago.
It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my
machine. <H>.
Post by Mart
Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel
can offer anything. Best of luck.
Mart
Hi Mart--
Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately
the renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP
:-b Will try the renaming again from within Me.
carol
Post by Mart
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute
issues in WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB
articles:- "Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized
After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261690 "System
Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround
sections) Interesting to note in the Status section that
"Microsoft has
confirmed that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename'
workaround still appears to
be the current fix.
Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us
Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.
Mart
Post by caroloyl
In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium
or XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB
drive. When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find
all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS).
Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS
version is inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is
there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case
letters only
for
every name?
Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)
Joan Archer
2009-12-18 16:28:46 UTC
Permalink
With a name like Tarquin what do you expect <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The point was
that you can even do that. Or - you can view all files but just select
those all in uppercase. In fact you can do just about anything you feel
like with the proviso that renaming system files rather than simply
changing case is a bad idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy to fix.
But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair enough...
AB
Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
2009-12-18 16:48:08 UTC
Permalink
I'm not getting emoticons, Joan! (with OE-Quotefix). And in fact since
installing Office 2010 the smellfecker doesn't do a particularly good job -
though I suppose that it works at all in OE is a surprise.

P'raps should try Windows Live Mail (again).

I do believe Grace Slick just sang "like an over-the-moon cow"! ???
Post by Joan Archer
With a name like Tarquin what do you expect <g>
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The point
was that you can even do that. Or - you can view all files but just
select those all in uppercase. In fact you can do just about
anything you feel like with the proviso that renaming system files
rather than simply changing case is a bad idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy to
fix. But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair
enough... AB
Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
2009-12-18 17:13:13 UTC
Permalink
No, still no emoticon.

And my tea's cold!

Should have stuck to coffee. Perhaps that's why I don't see an emoticon?



How much that the 25th is totally devoid of snow, is damp and grey and not
even very cold?

(That was my signature!)
Post by Joan Archer
With a name like Tarquin what do you expect <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The point was
that you can even do that. Or - you can view all files but just select
those all in uppercase. In fact you can do just about anything you feel
like with the proviso that renaming system files rather than simply
changing case is a bad idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy to fix.
But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair enough...
AB
Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
2009-12-18 17:39:33 UTC
Permalink
Ah, so!
--
How much that the 25th is totally devoid of snow, is damp and grey and not
even very cold?
Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
No, still no emoticon.
And my tea's cold!
Should have stuck to coffee. Perhaps that's why I don't see an emoticon?
How much that the 25th is totally devoid of snow, is damp and grey and not
even very cold?
(That was my signature!)
Post by Joan Archer
With a name like Tarquin what do you expect <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The point was
that you can even do that. Or - you can view all files but just select
those all in uppercase. In fact you can do just about anything you feel
like with the proviso that renaming system files rather than simply
changing case is a bad idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy to
fix. But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair
enough...
AB
Joan Archer
2009-12-18 19:28:24 UTC
Permalink
You wont get them if you're reading the posts in Plain Text silly <g>and I'm
going to finish my last drop of proper coffee from the filter machine <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
No, still no emoticon.
And my tea's cold!
Should have stuck to coffee. Perhaps that's why I don't see an emoticon?
How much that the 25th is totally devoid of snow, is damp and grey and not
even very cold?
(That was my signature!)
Post by Joan Archer
With a name like Tarquin what do you expect <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The point was
that you can even do that. Or - you can view all files but just select
those all in uppercase. In fact you can do just about anything you feel
like with the proviso that renaming system files rather than simply
changing case is a bad idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy to
fix. But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair
enough...
AB
Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
2009-12-18 20:05:06 UTC
Permalink
But I wasn't at first Joan! And I just switched back (mind, I am in OE
again, but that shouldn't matter, it's worked for years) and I'm still
getting what I got earlier, that is the good ol' blank square with the red
x! I'll have to read up on that one I guess. Been a long time since that was
a regular on winme general (I expect. For all I know people were asking
about it three months ago!) and I never did learnt the solution, never
having suffered it myself.

Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!
Post by Joan Archer
You wont get them if you're reading the posts in Plain Text silly
<g>and I'm going to finish my last drop of proper coffee from the
filter machine <g>
Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
No, still no emoticon.
And my tea's cold!
Should have stuck to coffee. Perhaps that's why I don't see an
emoticon? How much that the 25th is totally devoid of snow, is damp and
grey
and not even very cold?
(That was my signature!)
Post by Joan Archer
With a name like Tarquin what do you expect <g>
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
Post by Mart
... so why not?
.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,
Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.
Only a loony would actually want to change all filenames. The
point was that you can even do that. Or - you can view all files
but just select those all in uppercase. In fact you can do just
about anything you feel like with the proviso that renaming system
files rather than simply changing case is a bad idea.
Post by Mart
Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol
There is always a reason for that. And it will be relatively easy
to fix. But if one wishes to put it down to, say, God's will, fair
enough...
AB
Mike M
2009-12-19 00:31:15 UTC
Permalink
Tools | Options | Security and UNcheck "Block images and other external
content in HTML e-mail".
--
Mike
Post by Tarquin T. Shuttlecock
But I wasn't at first Joan! And I just switched back (mind, I am in OE
again, but that shouldn't matter, it's worked for years) and I'm still
getting what I got earlier, that is the good ol' blank square with
the red x! I'll have to read up on that one I guess. Been a long time
since that was a regular on winme general (I expect. For all I know
people were asking about it three months ago!) and I never did learnt
the solution, never having suffered it myself.
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!
Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
2009-12-19 01:28:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike M
Tools | Options | Security and UNcheck "Block images and other
external content in HTML e-mail".
Bloody 'ell! Thanks!

What I find really hard to believe is that I've had that one unchecked
(therefore) for, what, the last I don't know how many years? And reading in
plain text only also unchecked? I can scarcely remember a time when I didn't
use OE-Quotefix with OE. I'm flabbergasted. My flabber has never been so
gasted, as I believe Frankie Howerd would have said!

So, y'okay Mike?

Shane
--
Just realised I don't have my sig in OE!
Mike M
2009-12-19 02:14:18 UTC
Permalink
Using OE Quotefix should be mandatory for those using OE, especially those
who use it as a newsreader and post messages to Usenet. :-)

How are you keeping? Myself, so so thanks. I'm becoming increasingly lazy
although I suspect I had a head start on most. <even bigger grin>

Hopefully I'll see you around for the next few days. This place needs
livening up before MS try to kill it for good. I now off to try and finish
digitising the VHS tape I'm working on. Video keeps going out of synch, I
don't know whether it's the age of the tape or the VCR, and I have to keep
stopping, resyncing the video and then restarting. Looks as if I'm going to
have a lot of editing to do to stitch the parts together.
--
Mike
Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
Post by Mike M
Tools | Options | Security and UNcheck "Block images and other
external content in HTML e-mail".
Bloody 'ell! Thanks!
What I find really hard to believe is that I've had that one unchecked
(therefore) for, what, the last I don't know how many years? And
reading in plain text only also unchecked? I can scarcely remember a
time when I didn't use OE-Quotefix with OE. I'm flabbergasted. My
flabber has never been so gasted, as I believe Frankie Howerd would
have said!
So, y'okay Mike?
Shane
Joan Archer
2009-12-20 16:44:48 UTC
Permalink
Lets hope they don't drop this one Mike although I know they are trying to
get away from the NG's and just have online forums instead, that's what
they've done with Windows 7 group, if you want an NG you have to go to the
alt. groups to get it other wise go to the answers forum.
--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
Post by Mike M
Using OE Quotefix should be mandatory for those using OE, especially those
who use it as a newsreader and post messages to Usenet. :-)
How are you keeping? Myself, so so thanks. I'm becoming increasingly
lazy although I suspect I had a head start on most. <even bigger grin>
Hopefully I'll see you around for the next few days. This place needs
livening up before MS try to kill it for good. I now off to try and
finish digitising the VHS tape I'm working on. Video keeps going out of
synch, I don't know whether it's the age of the tape or the VCR, and I
have to keep stopping, resyncing the video and then restarting. Looks as
if I'm going to have a lot of editing to do to stitch the parts together.
--
Mike
Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
Post by Mike M
Tools | Options | Security and UNcheck "Block images and other
external content in HTML e-mail".
Bloody 'ell! Thanks!
What I find really hard to believe is that I've had that one unchecked
(therefore) for, what, the last I don't know how many years? And
reading in plain text only also unchecked? I can scarcely remember a
time when I didn't use OE-Quotefix with OE. I'm flabbergasted. My
flabber has never been so gasted, as I believe Frankie Howerd would
have said!
So, y'okay Mike?
Shane
Shane
2009-12-22 02:34:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike M
How are you keeping? Myself, so so thanks. I'm becoming
increasingly lazy although I suspect I had a head start on most.
<even bigger grin>
<g> Well I 'completed' the diet. Couldn't quite get to 11st 8lb so settled
for approx. 11st 11lb and have stayed within a couple of pounds of that
more-or-less ever since, which is the lightest I've been since I was at
school. Now I can eat with a bit of abandon again, but find I don't really
want to. So that is good; like the smoking, I feel like I'll never go down
that route again.

Now I recall the last time we spoke was about the Be connection statistics.
It has been essentially the same ever since, but I switched to the
faster/less stable profile (or whatever they call it!) maybe a month ago,
and went to OpenDNS (with redirection turned off), and updated the router
firmware (partly to maybe better protect against the appalling vulnerability
Paul Mutton discovered, but more to attempt to fix an issue that has
developed, that resembles a DNS failure - hence OpenDNS - but actually seems
to be the router dropping the connection if left on for a few hours!) So I
just raised a ticket today. The router was okay (-ish) at first, but now you
have to cycle the power off and back on every few hours (and to avoid the
'watched kettle' effect, reboot the computer).
Post by Mike M
Hopefully I'll see you around for the next few days. This place needs
livening up before MS try to kill it for good. I now off to try and
finish digitising the VHS tape I'm working on. Video keeps going out
of synch, I don't know whether it's the age of the tape or the VCR,
and I have to keep stopping, resyncing the video and then restarting.
Looks as if I'm going to have a lot of editing to do to stitch the
parts together.
Hope you've finished by now. Sounds like a nightmare! I feel about VHS the
way I feel about PAYG, CRT etc, so glad they're no longer part of my daily
routine! Though I did have something of a treasure trove at one time of day.
So long ago now its like a different life. I should have known you'd have a
VCR still. I could have sent you my Lightning documentaries. As it is they
went to the PDSA shop in town (along with every book and DVD I figured I'd
never be getting out again. Though I'd have liked to see the Lightning tapes
again, I just figure I'll never have a VCR again).
Post by Mike M
Post by Morgan Alabaster-Artichoke
Post by Mike M
Tools | Options | Security and UNcheck "Block images and other
external content in HTML e-mail".
Bloody 'ell! Thanks!
What I find really hard to believe is that I've had that one
unchecked (therefore) for, what, the last I don't know how many
years? And reading in plain text only also unchecked? I can scarcely
remember a time when I didn't use OE-Quotefix with OE. I'm
flabbergasted. My flabber has never been so gasted, as I believe
Frankie Howerd would have said!
So, y'okay Mike?
Shane
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